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I have to admit a certain fascination with American politics - it's certainly far more entertaining and vibrant (Perhaps Lurid?) than politics closer to home, so I've been following the Presidential race a fair bit so far, and found this interesting.

So, it's been announced that from a field of candidates, Romney has chosen member of the house Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wi) to be his running mate. Ryan was, of course, a rising Republican star, a Tea Party darling and a major player in the budget crisis last year, being in charge of creating the Republican budget plan - a plan known mostly because of how much it stunk, and how it tried to change out Medicare from guaranteed healthcare for pensioners to a voucher system, which would have seen many retirees unable to procure health insurance. Even though he promised not to go after those already receiving Medicare, just strip benefits from new retirees, it still was extremely unpopular with seniors. It also basically wanted to take away most of the progressive tax system in favour of two flat levels - so the poor would end up having higher taxes, while the rich would receive lower taxes, as well as lowering corporate taxes. That budget ended up getting shot down by both sides of the aisle, even Republicans hated it because of how much it hurt their chances with older Americans who make up a significant proportion of their base.

It seems a strange choice for Romney to go a hard right tea partier for his running mate, rather than someone with a broader appeal. Obviously it's Romney playing towards the Republican base trying to shore up support (as he's disliked by a significant proportion of it), but even then, Ryan seems like a poor choice, as his record on Medicare will make him a liability with seniors. Perhaps his choice is being dictated in some way by more right wing party leaders and donors, who might prefer Ryan's Randist philosophy and his advocacy for lowering tax rates on high income earners.

Anyway, I can't really see this choice ending up any better than Sarah Palin did. What are your thoughts?

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It also basically wanted to take away most of the progressive tax system in favour of two flat levels - so the poor would end up having higher taxes, while the rich would receive lower taxes, as well as lowering corporate taxes.
Wait, what??

90% of people think they are above average.

Statistically Improbable. Psychologically Inevitable.
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^Agreed. Fuck off ya republican shit.

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Worse than Sarah Palin? Then again, nothing can be as bad as her...surely.
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Ryan is intelligent and somewhat charismatic. He can debate relatively well, and his status within the republican party helps shore up Romneys' base. He (Ryan) also has some respect on the other side. It was a smart choice for Romney.

Again Ryan is bright and can speak relatively well. Palin is... Well she can speak.

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... barely.

Sorry, you left that wide open.

90% of people think they are above average.

Statistically Improbable. Psychologically Inevitable.
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I'm not entirely surprised. Ryan is a safe choice- well-respected in the political theatre, an effective speaker, and touts the party line. It's natural that they'd choose a guy who supports cutting taxes for the rich and heaping the burden on the middle and lower classes.

This is the classic Republican team: two rich white dudes.
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... barely.

Sorry, you left that wide open.
Fair enough. Lol

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This is the classic Republican team: two rich white dudes.
As opposed to the typical democratic team of two middle class dudes?

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As opposed to the typical democratic team of two middle class dudes?
This. Both parties have a rich history of rich white dudes.

Paul Ryan is a safe choice for mitt, but I think it was a bad choice. All he has done is get people who were already bound to vote for him more excited about voting for him. Then again, the republicans got burned when they took a risk last election year so they are probably trying not to repeat that performance .

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That romney bloke seems worse then Bush and that's an impressive achievement. In two weeks he's pissed off the Palestinians therefore annoying the Israelis, he has pissed off the Great Britain saying our games will be a failure (so far we ain't mucked up much) and now he's pissed off the old people who are the only people who vote (huge generalisation but you get what I mean)
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