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THE HERETICS TALK TO GAMES WORKSHOP



So Heretics after some discussion in other threads, it was decided we should write to GW about a few things, so this is the thread we are going to use to collate your Ideas,suggestions,complaints and feedback, we will then look are producing a well presented letter and send it to them.

Ok firstly we dont want this thread to devolve into a rant thread, if you have a issue with something then please comment about what it is, how it effects you/the game/other people/the company etc and how you think it could be resolved. When thinking about making a post please think about how a change how ever minor, would effect GW, what they would need to do to implement it,cost and benefits, try not to just think about your own selfish needs (difficult to do sometimes).

Secondly, this isnt a usual discussion thread as such, If someone posts an idea or an issue or what ever, please dont try to rubbish the post out of hand, you may want to add your own comment or expand on there's or ask them to clarify something, its not our place to answer the questions or comments that people post.

Third if you post something that can be answered without asking GW then we wont include it in the letter.

Obviously we could generate a massive amount of stuff that wants to be said, so we may have to look at several letters over a longer period or condense some stuff.

It would also be good if some people could also put together some positive comments, criticism (even constructive) is all very well and good but genuine praise is also welcomed.



So why are we doing this?
Well its felt by some that GW dont listen, by others that GW do listen but only to certain customers, by others its the method of contact, others like me think GW ignore Forums like ours because we can be unfairly harsh.

So it was felt that since we all enjoy a good debate about our hobby why not get some stuff on paper and in the mail and see what comes of it?

Please keep it civil and dont use this thread to try and chase up your FW delivery or other things that you need to personally take care of.



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Maybe the first point could be this thread and its reason for being created. If people feel that its either difficult or pointless getting in touch with GW, maybe that is something that could be raised with them. Many gamers do feel that their opinions are not listened to and that will (due to the nature of the interwebz) spread. Is it something they could address on their website or in some other way?
Wargaming has become it's own little community and parts of that community feel they do not have a voice, either due to a real or perceived attitude from GW.

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I just have a couple of questions:

"Is there any plan in the near future for the current pewter specialist miniatures to be transfered to finecast?"

Yes, I'm going to be 'that' arsehole:

"What are the justifications behind the massive price disparities between Games Workshop UK and Games Workshop Australia?"

That's all that comes to mind at the moment.

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As a pre-emptive to keep this thread on topic and to the point, we will be watching this thread and posts that violate its purpose or otherwise detract from what we are trying to to will be edited or deleted.

If you feel the need to vent, I urge to use the relevant thread instead.


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Fine Cast, why after how ever many months of release did I have to go through 6 castings of Isabella from the vampire count line till I find one that was okay, not perfect, still need some green stuff on chin, but okay.

Is that sort of thing all right? so fine cast quality control still lacking basically.
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"What are the justifications behind the massive price disparities between Games Workshop UK and Games Workshop Australia?"

That's all that comes to mind at the moment.
As a response to this I would bet on the response being shipping costs, I know where you will probably go with that one, but they will justify it with a rise in transportation costs import/export tax and all the other good stuff that'll they'll have in there closset of answers.

Sorry for jacking the thread.

The only thing I can think of at the moment is reference a previous thread, are they likely to go for a "build your own" battle force with a drop down menu on there website as I'm sure many will agree that even with a marginol discount they could/ would make more money this way
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Fine Cast, why after how ever many months of release did I have to go through 6 castings of Isabella from the vampire count line till I find one that was okay, not perfect, still need some green stuff on chin, but okay.

Is that sort of thing all right? so fine cast quality control still lacking basically.
If some people are still having issues with Finecast then a polite question about it seems reasonable to me; however, as other people (myself included) have not had issues it would only be fair to make it clear it is not an issue with everything.

As a first draft of a question I suggest:

Whilst many Finecast models are an improvement on their metal forebears, some members have discovered flaws too extreme to remedy without extensive sculpting in multiple copies of the same Finecast model. As this has occurred with newer releases, such as Isabella, it does not appear to be just teething troubles with the first use of the technology. What steps are being taken to improve the percentage of good copies?
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So, is viability being taken into account when new models are sculpted in finecast? Sounds like a reasonable question. Some models, Urien Rakarth in particular I've noticed, are just to fiddly for finecast to be viable in their making.

Pricing is an issue I don't feel we will make ground on, however the build a battleforce and receive discounts idea has merit, so we can try to push this further.


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I would like to know if there are going to be any more Global Campaigns (like the previous Ichar, Armageddon, Eye of Terror). I personally greatly enjoyed them and it seems like a good way to re-invigorate people's interest in the hobby, especially those of a more casual/narrative nature. Additionally given the prevalence of the internet and social media tools it seems like it would be easier to set up and interact with and more wide reaching then ever before.

If not i'd like to know why.

One of the most common accusations levelled against GW on various forums and blogs is their perceived low quality of rules making, balancing and associated with this an inability or unwillingness to communicate with the community. The increased amount of FAQ's (and the decrease in time it's taking to get them) is a step in the right direction but i feel this needs to go further.

At the moment it's a fact that some codex's are woefully out of date and built for an entirely different edition. Perhaps some form of pdf codex containing only rules, or just a rules update to existing books could go some way to remedy these problems.

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As a response to this I would bet on the response being shipping costs, I know where you will probably go with that one, but they will justify it with a rise in transportation costs import/export tax and all the other good stuff that'll they'll have in there closset of answers.

Sorry for jacking the thread.

The only thing I can think of at the moment is reference a previous thread, are they likely to go for a "build your own" battle force with a drop down menu on there website as I'm sure many will agree that even with a marginol discount they could/ would make more money this way
I can answer this one, at least in part.

Years back, GW had a large mail order facility. There was the 'Picking Floor', with about 15 permanent staff who picked bitz orders. There were racks that held drawers with every bit GW did, and the facility to order virtually every one. This got more and more unwieldy, and less and less cost efficient, until (to the wailing and gnashing of teeth in customer and staff alike) they closed the picking floor and went to purely boxed and blistered product, with select bitz packages. That section of head office now holds extended casting facilities.

The introduction of a new "choose your own battle force" would require a reinstatement of some kind of picking floor, as this couldn't be automated like the current system. It would require someone to recieve and process the multitude of orders (as everyone would want to do this) and at least three full-time packers and a manager.

The more likely thing to happen, would be for a selection of battle forces to be available on a purely online basis and you could choose between them or the standard one available to the shops.

By all means put in the full request, but it might be worth adding this alternative suggestion too.

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