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|03-08-11 04:47 PM|
Originally Posted by Whitehorn View Post
|03-08-11 12:56 PM|
|LukeValantine||Wow its amazing that almost every CSM special character is at least 1000 years old (this is a highly conservative estimate do to time dilation in the warp). With the exception of huron of cause.|
|03-08-11 11:46 AM|
Technically, you could compare them side to side. Let's look at pre-heresy marines that survive today and see how powerful they are.
|02-26-11 02:06 PM|
|Fallen DA||Yeah, I'd have to go with Pre-Heresy Marines. They may of had limited contact with Orcs etc initially, but after 10,000 years those left will have fought anything and everything.|
|02-25-11 10:49 PM|
Originally Posted by Commissar Schultz View Post
|02-25-11 09:33 PM|
Originally Posted by Marneus Calgar View Post
|02-25-11 09:32 PM|
Considering the stagnation of technology in the Imperium, and the inability to re-engineer the failed implants that some of the chapters suffer from would indicate to me that current marines are watered down versions of the originals. There are a couple times in novels where CSMs call the modern marines weaklings, and while some of this may be just taunting an enemy, there is probably a grain of truth in it. 10,000 years of dilution of the geneseed has to lead to some serious degradation.
As to the crap about the preHeresy marines not having fought orks, or whatever, totally wrong. Didn't Horus save the Emperor from an ork warlord? They spent 200 years of the great crusade fighting the worst the galaxy could throw at them. All this after spending years fighting in the Unification Wars. The last thing they were was inexperienced.
I'm reading Savage Scars at the moment, and it retells the first real combat between marines and the Tau. Marines learn very fast, but their approach doesn't really change no matter who they fight, mash it from a distance, then get up close and personal.
|02-25-11 05:10 PM|
Dont you know that OLDER TIMES ARE BETTER?
Wh40k applies that a lot! is a kind of philosophy! Post heresy space marines doesnt know how technology works, is a dark age.
|02-25-11 03:38 PM|
Numbers and focus made the pre-heresy so strong. Each had a primarch and thousands of space marine, ultramarines and word bearers each had over 100 thousand marines, 100 'current' chapters. They had a set goal, if not human you die. They had their brothers right around a corner if things got difficult.
Chaos has weeded the weak marines out, 10k years of fighting, only the strong have survived, unfortunately the tabletop game doesnt really display them, more renegade chapters with some chaos god influence IMO.
|02-25-11 02:47 PM|
Originally Posted by Doelago View Post
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