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06-17-10 11:33 AM
Serpion5
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Originally Posted by normtheunsavoury View Post
Sorry for the double post, I completely missed this!

Again, I think it would depend on what the reason was. As far as I'm aware all successor chapetrs still venerate their Primarchs, unless of course they are the Blood Ravens. As long as they can still trace their lineage back to the Ultras then I would imagine a call of enough importance would be answered.
That just leaves the question of what would the call need to be?
If it was an open call for support in taking control of the Imperium then I would imagine their would be a sizeable amount of resistance. If it was a call for aid to defend against some massive force I would think that the call would be answered and the mother of all Legions would be raised in a very short time.
Tell that to Graham McNeill. "The Chapter`s Due" sees an iron warriors warband and a daemonic warhost lay siege to ultramar and strike at several key worlds simultaneously. Utilising pirates and mercenaries as well actually.

And which chapter sends its aid?

The Raven Guard. They send not even a dozen warriors with the interest of capturing one of their own turned renegade.

Does Ultramar have to fall before their successor chapters take notice?




"...Damn. Maybe we should have helped them, eh?"
06-17-10 10:49 AM
gothik i think i would be more worried about the Black Templars they seem more secretive the the Lions sons in my humble opinion and as a side thought whilst no one questions thier loyalty to the Emperor and Dorns legacy a legion strength band of zelous fanatics really worries me....um wasn't that what got Lorgar and his sons into trouble in the first place i bet he is laughing his demon ass off now
06-16-10 12:37 PM
normtheunsavoury
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Although we should take into account that inevitably some of those Chapters who owe their gene-seed to Guilliman are now so far removed from the Ultramarines that they may not feel any sense of loyalty or common purpose at all.
Sorry for the double post, I completely missed this!

Again, I think it would depend on what the reason was. As far as I'm aware all successor chapetrs still venerate their Primarchs, unless of course they are the Blood Ravens. As long as they can still trace their lineage back to the Ultras then I would imagine a call of enough importance would be answered.
That just leaves the question of what would the call need to be?
If it was an open call for support in taking control of the Imperium then I would imagine their would be a sizeable amount of resistance. If it was a call for aid to defend against some massive force I would think that the call would be answered and the mother of all Legions would be raised in a very short time.
06-16-10 12:27 PM
Baron Spikey
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Originally Posted by normtheunsavoury View Post
Whats 10,000 super human killing machines with big guns between friends eh?
Not much, but 100,000 could be a big deal
06-16-10 12:25 PM
normtheunsavoury
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And it's actually 60% of Chapters are of Guilliman's seed not 50%
Whats 10,000 super human killing machines with big guns between friends eh?

I'd even go as far as to say that it was Guilliman who pulled the fast one, there's no other Legion that could stand up to that.
06-15-10 06:56 PM
Baron Spikey And it's actually 60% of Chapters are of Guilliman's seed not 50%
06-15-10 04:32 PM
Child-of-the-Emperor
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I think it's roughly half of all the SM Chapters in M41 owe their gene seed, at least in part, to the Ultamarines. Theres supposed to be around 1000 Chapters, so thats 500 chapters of roughly 1000 marines each. I don't think any of the legions came anywhere near that sort of size.
Although we should take into account that inevitably some of those Chapters who owe their gene-seed to Guilliman are now so far removed from the Ultramarines that they may not feel any sense of loyalty or common purpose at all.
06-15-10 12:32 PM
normtheunsavoury Regardless of what the reasons may be it still stands in black and white that Dante brought together all of the Blood Angels successor chapters bar one.
If a legion as fractured as the Blood Angles can be brought back together then i would imagine that most founding legions could pull together a sizeable force fairly quickly.
The Ultra's would probably be able to pull together the biggest force just because they spawned the most Chapters. I think it's roughly half of all the SM Chapters in M41 owe their gene seed, at least in part, to the Ultamarines. Theres supposed to be around 1000 Chapters, so thats 500 chapters of roughly 1000 marines each. I don't think any of the legions came anywhere near that sort of size.
06-15-10 10:58 AM
Serpion5 Out of duty to their homeworld, not necessarily friendship.

After all, if you moved abroad, and someone invaded your homeland, you`d be pretty pissed, right? I know it`s not the same, but still, The home of their primarch is under siege! They owe their existence to that world, of course they`re gonna help.

btw, getting off topic.

I still think chapters work fine in theory. It`s just a shame about some of the guys in charge.
06-14-10 12:43 PM
normtheunsavoury In Codex Blood Angels it says that Dante has called for help from all of the Successor Chapters and that the only ones not to send aid were the Lamenters. Even the Knights Of Blood turned up and they have been declared renegade.
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