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11-29-07 04:52 PM
ArcAngels the next book is called battle legion and it focus's on the alpha legion and the imperial army. the book after that is called battle for the abyss and it focus's on the ultramrines against the word bearers on calth, Kor Phearon vs Roboute Guilliman
11-29-07 02:19 PM
craigus out of intrest what do you think the next book will be about? also going back to the missing legions my large space marine and chaos chapter is based on one of the missing legions i called them the lone wolves
11-28-07 07:40 PM
Bishop120 What would you do for those 2 missing legions if it where your universe to mold as you wish?
11-28-07 05:23 PM
cerrakoth Gamesworkshop always leave open end stories becuase it allows fans to draw there own conclusion and think of imaginative things which is why the II and XI legions are missing so gamers can make there own conclusions=D
11-28-07 02:21 AM
Elchimpster My hope is that another book will be written to wrap up the story a bit, give it a little more light/ perspective.

It's possible though that this is a standalone and we're SUPPOSED to be left kinda hanging...wondering about The Lion, his mind, his thoughts and what direction things are going to go because even the characters in the book don't know. (Maybe even The Lion himself doesn't know).

I do know that GW purposefully tells open-ended stories and leaves some things purposefully vague in order to keep the fans guessing (and interested). It's like any media: give the viewers a teaser, feed them a bit more to keep them interested, but leave yourself an "out" so you can write more later. I'm okay with that.

I can't wait to read about the Ultramarines vs Word Bearers fight! (I'm doing up pre-heresy UM now).
11-27-07 10:18 PM
ArcAngels lol, i know what yo mean by the two missing primarchs but the lion and corax and vulcan are the three primarchs with information released that lack much of a story, even rogal dorn never told of how he cam to be in command of the phalanx, the two missing are a mystery to me, i dont know what gw is going to do to them
11-27-07 10:14 PM
cerrakoth I know what you mean about the paranoia(my bad about the primarch fight I am wrong sorry=])but angels of darkness or w,e cant remember title is from the point of view of a FALLEN angel and so it is(it even states in the book) to be considered falsehood. The Lion was faithful to the Emperor he did not play it out he has a legitimate excuse can't remember it but don't take the words of a raving madman (FALLEN) to be true=] you also can't say we know the least about him as primarchs II and XI are the least known but we know very little about some chaos primarchs and tbh until the Horus heresy book series we knew very little of the personalities of many of the Primarchs=]
11-27-07 09:37 PM
ArcAngels Thank you Elchimpster, i knew someone understood what i was saying
11-27-07 08:19 PM
Bishop120 I need to read "Angels of Darkness"... a lot of people have said that it puts this book into a whole new light.

As to this books place in the HH series yeah this one is kinda lost so far... some people have said that the sequel to this will show the Lion to be a kinda "Im going to pick the winners side" type light when the Heresy kicks off and his indecision is the reason he's attacked when he goes back to Calidan. Luthor and Zahariel are going to be like "WTF... why didnt you help the Emporer??" And that the true reason Cyber and the Fallen are hunted isnt because they were against the Lion and the Emporer but because they know the truth about the Lion not supporting either side of the HH conflict and instead waiting to side with whoever wins. I cant find any mention of the Lion in the Collected Visions so his role in the Heresy isnt really revealed... so lets hope the sequel shows up what his place in the HH truly is.
11-27-07 07:22 PM
Originally Posted by ArcAngels View Post
I really think that the character study of the lion will go in any direction we want it to, GW makes hole in stories so we can talk about it in places like this, so in my defence i think none of us can come up with the awnsers as to why the lion did what he did, but we can speculate and thats what weve been doing for 2 pages so, <snip>
Honestly, this actually makes a LOT of sense. There has always been talk of The Lion's distrust of the Terran's and his wanting to protect Caliban. Sending back Zahariel and other of the best and brightest (Luther etc) to protect is...makes sense. From THEIR perspective, It may not make sense, and they would likely think the way most folks have said, "Why's he pissed off at us? What did we do wrong?".

The Lion's paranoia is pretty obviously evident. I don't know if anyone can really understand the psychology of a being so singularly special...but it HAS to be lonely, and adding that to his survival in the wilds of Caliban...yeah, I can see The Lion as being at least a bit on the clinically paranoid side.

It wasn't a bad book. It wasn't my favorite, actually it was IMO the worst of the HH series. Regardless, I've LOVED the HH series which still places the book IMO in the "Good" category.
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