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04-16-09 12:08 PM
bishop5 As is the way with the current Guard codex; it's good to have a balance.
Leaving 2-300 points in a 1500 point game, after taking 9 Basilisks, to field the important objective grabbing troops will see you lose in a couple of turns.

I'm considering 2 BMT's and a squadron of 3 Hydra's.
04-16-09 11:03 AM
zas240
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Neither! 4 earth shaker rounds and five hundred lasguns... or some mix.. I don't think that all or nothing is goign to cut it your going to have to mix and match to get a balanced force.
But I want it to be themed, fun to play with, after all I'm not a Power Gamer
04-16-09 10:48 AM
TrentLanthier
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Nine Earthshaker Cannons or nine hundred lasguns. That is the question.
Neither! 4 earth shaker rounds and five hundred lasguns... or some mix.. I don't think that all or nothing is goign to cut it your going to have to mix and match to get a balanced force.
04-16-09 10:37 AM
zas240 Nine Earthshaker Cannons or nine hundred lasguns. That is the question.
04-16-09 09:40 AM
slaaneshy Most armies can field deep striking armour killers. If you focus on just using basks, you risk losing them to a handful of deep strikers with melta guns or similar.
Also a necron army with destroyers and veil will chew up an overly armoured guard army.
The real strength of the new codex will be infantry. A guardsman with a lasgun may not be much on his own, but back him up with 299 of his mates.....
04-16-09 09:11 AM
Lord of Rebirth I have been working on a Traitor Guard armoured battlegroup/multiple battle groups put together but I think in a normal 1500 games 9 bassies is to much. Try something like 4-6 if you really wanna barrage stuff and don't expect to flatten the enemy army first turn.
04-16-09 02:44 AM
Lord_Murdock Ok everyone: Basilisks can still fire directly in the new codex! Sure they aren't barrage weapons if they fire directly, but they no longer have a minimum range. It's in the rule book under ordinance barrage weapons. The Colossus, the medusa, and the deathstrike cannot fire directly because it says so in their entry, but the basilisk still can.

That being said, I would not recommend taking so many tanks in one army. It is a serious waste of points. Take three (one for each heavy support slot), and save the rest or the points for infantry and fast tanks/sentinels.

As for the unbalance, that can be used against the guard. Tanks can only do so much damage before the opponent can get to them, so if they rely on tanks too much they can be overwhelmed by an army with a few lascannons, especially if the tanks all have relatively low armour values, like a basilisk. I can see a lot of people over-using tanks when the new codex comes out, only to be disappointed when a couple lucky lascannon shots take out half their army. Remember, guard tanks will be seeing a points increase across the board.
04-16-09 01:12 AM
Wu-Tang-Tau All I am gonna say is that I am gonna moan and complain about unbalance once this new codex comes out I bet those uncivilised Gue'las finally gets to beat my Cadres now
04-15-09 11:57 PM
zas240 the idea of feilding about 400 infantry in 1500 point games is rather indimdating, espesialu with the idea of the order that lets them fire lasguns once more than normal.
04-15-09 11:57 PM
Daniel Harper Yeah, that minimum range is annoying, but an artillery heavy army is something I wish to experiment with as well, just remember that the basilisks in a squadron will have to fire at the same target (I believe) and I also hear the Master Of Ordanence always scatters.
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