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12-26-15 02:56 PM
Euphrati The Night Lord in question in Void Stalker is named Mercutian. He is hit directly in his powerpack by a thunderhammer (causing it to explode and sending him to the decking for a time), but is able to stand and move after the fact with the note-

'... Without power, his armour was almost useless, adding nothing to his strength or reflexes. The joints didn't whirr, and the backpack didn't hum.'
(I'd give a page number but apparently my ebook copy is disinclined to provide me with one at this time).

It is also pointed out shortly after the above quote that Mercutian also is no longer tied to any vox and/or squad uplinks so he removes his helm to communicate with his brothers as the slowly make their way through their ship, indicating that he is able to move in armour that is totally devoid of power as well as heavily damaged.

Movement in damaged/deactivated standard power armour is possible though not the most elegant of things, however, I recall reading at some point that it is all but impossible to move in unpowered terminator armour due to the sheer weight and size of the plating. Note that when I say 'all but impossible' that does not mean that you won't find some mention of a champion astartes being able to force his terminator armour to move through sheer stubborn strength and willpower.
12-26-15 02:15 PM
darkreever
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Originally Posted by godking View Post
A marine without power armour is dead in the water against a competent foe.
Not really, even without the armour they are still modified transhumans that can think and react faster, are tougher and stronger, and have additional organs and redundancies to keep going on. Power armour enhances a vast majority of what already make them superior weapons, it doesn't define them wholesale.

Would an unarmoured marine be able to tank bolt rounds? No he would not, but a marine in power armour wouldn't try to do that either.
12-26-15 09:20 AM
godking A marine without power armour is dead in the water against a competent foe.

In the new novel Pharos Nightlords use weapons specifically designed to deactivate power armour.
12-23-15 03:57 PM
Kreuger Also consider the earlier marks of armor. Mark I, thunder armor was just a powered torso and arms. The greaves were powerless.
12-22-15 05:22 AM
kiro the avenger! Of course my bad
The names are just too similar ;)


- Kiro
12-21-15 09:17 PM
DeathJester921
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Originally Posted by kiro the avenger! View Post
6 days doesn't count as a necro does it

In know no fear didn't Meros (the apothecary) run around the star ship with weights 'simulating the weight' of unpowered power armour when he was recovering from his wound? When he ran into the remembrancer for reference
That would imply that they can move around in unpowered armour, and perhaps it was even a part of how a marine trained fitness- implying it was a difficulty at least
Also in flesh of cretacia didn't all the sprockets pop out of Amit's power fist, yet he still managed to biff another astartes a proper one?
Meros would be from Fear to Tread, not Know no Fear
12-21-15 08:42 PM
kiro the avenger! 6 days doesn't count as a necro does it

In know no fear didn't Meros (the apothecary) run around the star ship with weights 'simulating the weight' of unpowered power armour when he was recovering from his wound? When he ran into the remembrancer for reference
That would imply that they can move around in unpowered armour, and perhaps it was even a part of how a marine trained fitness- implying it was a difficulty at least
Also in flesh of cretacia didn't all the sprockets pop out of Amit's power fist, yet he still managed to biff another astartes a proper one?
12-15-15 03:04 PM
Tawa
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Originally Posted by Nordicus View Post
In "Siege of Castellax" there is a Iron Warrior who is captured by the Orks, where they strip his armor and holds him captive.
AHA!!! That's the fecker!

I knew I'd read that somewhere and it's been baking my bloody noodle!
12-15-15 08:37 AM
Nordicus In "Siege of Castellax" there is a Iron Warrior who is captured by the Orks, where they strip his armor and holds him captive. He escapes and gets his armor back, but it is completly torn apart by the orks, so none of the machinery actually works.

He does make it back, but it is described as cumbersome and unresponsive. It does give him the required protection though, and he certainly is able to use it. He can run from orks, and aim to a certain degree - So i think it more like the old plate mail in medieval time, where you sacrifice movability for protection, when it is not powered up.
12-15-15 07:53 AM
Battman
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Originally Posted by R_Squared View Post
Mobility beyond moving your arms would be virtually impossible even for someone with enhanced musculature like a SM. If you've ever been in a vehicle when the power assisted steering or brakes have failed, you'd have an idea of what it might be like.
Certainly a very apt discription i believe, though different in the power steering to the mass of what is basically plate steel armor made from slabs of concrete, the mass alone is much of the problem.

Another idea that i had for the inquiry was that when unpowered does the armor loose more functionality than just power assisted movement such as allowing air to be past through the filters or do the mechanical peices of the armor themselves hind movement?
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