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10-18-08 01:23 AM
Galahad
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Originally Posted by Flakey View Post
Hmm you must have a different codex from me I can not find any of these units in the IG.
You're either seriously not paying attention, or you're being deliberately obtuse in order to provoke a reaction. Either way, please knock it off.


He's not saying the BC isn't good against IG. In fact, he's AGREED that it is. All he's saying is "The BC is a good choice because it's good against IG" is not a good argument because you could make the same argument for the Klaw being good because it's good against the aforementioned types of armies.

If you're custom tailoring an anti-IG list, then fine. But if you want to make any OTHER kind of list, the Klaw is the better choice because it's useful against more types of units.

He's agreed that the BC is good against IG, you've agreed that the Klaw is good in a take all comers list. You both agree, so drop it.
10-17-08 04:41 PM
Flakey
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Originally Posted by Cole Deschain View Post
I could say the same for MEQ or Daemon Princes or up-armored Carnifexes or Hive Tyrants with Warp Field or Armored Companies and the Klaw.
Hmm you must have a different codex from me I can not find any of these units in the IG.
10-17-08 04:00 PM
Cole Deschain
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Originally Posted by Flakey View Post
Yes it not really suitable for an all comers list, but when you know you going to be facing IG well worth the consideration.
I could say the same for MEQ or Daemon Princes or up-armored Carnifexes or Hive Tyrants with Warp Field or Armored Companies and the Klaw.
10-17-08 03:57 PM
Flakey
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Originally Posted by Cole Deschain View Post
Tell that to Ogryns. Or tanks. Or hell, Storm Troopers.

And in a take-all-comers list, you WANT that armor cracking, you WANT that strength 10.

On a charge the warboss with big choppa will still instant kill ogryns, and importantly hit before they do, and only needs a +2 to glance any imperial tank except 1 and that only needs a +3.

Yes it not really suitable for an all comers list, but when you know you going to be facing IG well worth the consideration.
10-17-08 03:38 AM
Cole Deschain
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Originally Posted by Flakey View Post
Against IG armies you not always need a pk
Tell that to Ogryns. Or tanks. Or hell, Storm Troopers.

If I could tailor each list I made to the opponent I knew I'd be facing, I'd take Big Choppas, sure.

But I don't.

And in a take-all-comers list, you WANT that armor cracking, you WANT that strength 10.
10-17-08 03:24 AM
DaemonsR'us
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Originally Posted by Flakey View Post
Well its an option under certain circumstances. true you lose an attack, but a big choppa still means instant death to most marine type standard leaders ( on the charge anyway), and you penetrate av 10s on 3+ compare to an axes 5+. Also facing dreads you going to be facing 12 av, and a choppa/slugga can only glance on the charge and not hit outside that.

The PK verses the big choppa another case by case one. Basically its 20 points cheaper, and more importantly still strikes at initative. Against IG armies you not always need a pk
Well said and thanks ive been a csm player for a while but still new to orks
10-16-08 04:57 AM
soulstorm777 thanks everybody ill try and remember all this
10-14-08 10:23 PM
MaidenManiac The "budget build" isnt only good for Orks, thats actually something that goes for most armies. Sure its always fun to tool up your general with lots of gizmos, but the gizmos known as boys/SMs/etc is always hot too, and most often hotter
10-14-08 06:50 PM
Amra_the_lion I agree with Galahad 100%. I've too often been on the receiving end of just such a setup and it hurts. And only 90pts!
10-14-08 06:18 PM
Cole Deschain
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Originally Posted by yngair View Post
ok powerclaw is only good if you give him mega armour
Good lord, you couldn't be more wrong if you tried...

Mega Armor makes him S&P.... which means he may MISS the assault where you want it.

Sometimes, the PK can be the only upgrade you GIVE the Boss. It still pulls its weight.
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