It vexes me... I am terribly vexed...

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It is quite vexing ...

Seriously, the whole HH series could have been 7 to 12 novels. By Novels I mean, Game of Thrones style ones. Big ... lots of content, each being top sellers. That would be just for the main story arc. By all means release side Novels, perhaps 1 for each Legion so that fans don't have to suffer by not seeing their favourite Legion.

30+ books and being swamped with Shattered Legions and Calth at every turn is dull and boring.

I also believe BL need to pull their head out of the sand. It's not the 90's anymore, we're in the digital age. These books need to be primarily sold on eBook format, no printing costs also saves money but more importantly it means that the consumer doesn't have to end up with a book shelf of a ton of novels of all different sizes. It is completely ridiculous.

On a personal note I do believe they should ditch the table top and go digital with a decent pay as you go MMO game that's actually developed, but that's just personal preference. Again, only purely because it's a digital age these days, toy soldiers doesn't tend to impress anyone, but saying you've read a "Game of Thrones" best seller and people are interested. It should be the same with the HH ones.

By the way, if you want to know a serious HH spoiler...

My point being is that I don't see why they need all the smoke and mirrors when everyone knows the ending.

What is annoying is the end of the HH has already been revealed and they're supposedly only half way through the series. Literally read any Chaos legion book and you'll find out what happens.

My point being is that I don't see why they need all the smoke and mirrors when everyone knows the ending.

Also, I want to point out that it really depends on your definition of 'citizen'. If you mean anyone living in the 40k universe, well then that legend is truth to every single Chaos Space Marine. Many of which fought in it personally.

I hear what you are saying and respect your POV but really cannot agree. Of course the HH is setting up events for 40k. It is ALL about the lore. HH has been the single most important background event for The Imperium since about edition 2 of the game.

What I will say is that I have mixed feelings about the level to which the mystery of the background is being revealed. On the one hand I love reading about it but on the other a 10000 year old legend (after all for 40k citizens that is what the HH is, a legend) should have an air of mystery and misunderstanding about it.

First Time Poster, long time reader...

First: I have read all the available HH novels, Shorts, and listened to the Audio shorts, aside from the LE event releases which are hard to obtain with me living in Canada. I agree with most, if not all of the points made regarding the length of the series overall.

Second: I feel as though BL has utilized the HH series as a "coming of age" for the 40K franchise. The Vulkan escapades in particular have more import in 40K than in the known 30K mythos. Bbobs eloquently expresses so many excellent points regarding the "overfilling" of the cup of knowledge as it relates to the core of the series. Truthfully, the series could have ended after Galaxy in Flames, as we see the initial heresy occur, the events that spawned such a massive upheaval in this far future Imperium of Man. The 40k stories are of course largely based upon the "developing" lore we are privy to as a result of the sheer obesity of the HH to this point.

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As you can see, so much of the HH "fluff" or "filler" which to our current knowledge impacts the overall story minimally seems to be geared solely on laying a foundation for 40k novels, which makes sense seeing as 40k was ripe with novels prior to the release of Horus Rising.

Anyway my two cents. It is becoming far to lengthy, but like many of you, I am still reading because I am invested. I want to see what happens, not all of it, but the significant events that surround the final climax when we get to Terra. That being said, there will likely be 6 or 9 novels about the siege proper, each from a different perspective, as was pointed out hilariously in the Istavaan Thread looking at BL marketing techniques and methodology.

I just shelled out for the new Ragnar Novel(la) and eagarly await its arrival. This is one of the longest series I have invested both time and money into, likely since R.A.Salavtore's examination of the drow way back when. While I am becoming wary of the time and money spent of these novels, I still enjoy the writing of almost all the BL HH team, lately the novels have just seemed to lack significance and import during the story arc of the HH.

Death to the False Emperor!!

Do I really need to put [/joke] at the end of every joke I make?