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03-12-15 11:48 AM
Bindi Baji I actually think the game is becoming far more balanced then at any time I can actually recall
03-12-15 10:21 AM
bitsandkits GW would never allow a third party to write the rules besides does ffg have any experience in writing a massive tabletop wargame as complex as 40k has become Come to think of it who else does ?
Maybe im a fanboy and dont see the faults but truly who does have a game as game as complex as 40k , number of armies, number of units per army, number of models per army, vast array of vehicles land and air based, scenery and special rules, who else out there could be trusted to balance it while keeping it fast paced and enjoyable and most importantly profitable?



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03-10-15 04:20 PM
ChaosRedCorsairLord My dream for WHFB/40k is pretty much for GW to keep making miniatures and fluff and just hand over the game itself to another company. *cough* FFG *cough*
03-10-15 02:24 PM
Fallen I saw an interesting column on Spikey Bits as I was trolling the internet last night.

Basically included a response from Rick Priestly, the man who is credited to have invented 40k, and I thought that some of his comments were rather intriguing.

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It’s perfectly fine for GW to turn its backs upon wargaming in favour of modelling and collecting if that is the vision of the current management. But the result is that many customers who are or have been passionate about GW’s games do feel marginalized.
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...if GW is sincere about changing its market stance (and does not lose its bottle and start to back track – which is still possible) it opens up the market to any number of new companies that are interested in games, gaming and gamers! That won’t do GW any harm so long as they are determined to abandon that market – and it would leave them to concentrate on a mixture of high price highly profitable collectibles and licensing its IP out into other media – always something I felt was under exploited due to fear of losing control at the top of the business.
Interesting to say the least.
03-10-15 02:09 AM
fatmantis
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I think GW have, by and large, done a good job balancing the new game and source books for a more mature audience again.
totally agree..i feel that the game now is built on layers..yes the codex maybe losing some of their flavors and seem a bit weak..but i feel that really for new players..so they can get into the game faster and easier..and then for the veteran players there are so many choices or layers that they can add to play the game they wish..
so as ive stated before complaining about it really serve no purpose when you can easily create the game that you want..forge the narrative..if your a WAAC player well then your screwed..just have to deal with it..but for the hobbyist ther is so many cool and exciting ways to play now.
03-09-15 08:22 PM
Kreuger
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Originally Posted by bitsandkits View Post
...like i was saying about 2nd edition 40k some people hold it up as the holy grail, others dont.
Hey Bits, I don't think 2nd ed was the holy grail it's just the version I played the most and knew the best. And it was far better than the edition that replaced it. I remember exactly how awkward and unbalanced some of it was.

My comparison was mostly about the target age group and the kiddification of 3rd ed.

I think GW have, by and large, done a good job balancing the new game and source books for a more mature audience again.
03-09-15 04:40 PM
Doom wolf
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Originally Posted by bitsandkits View Post
why would you take up a hobby that you cant afford and then complain about the prices???
Because, dear bitsandkits, when I took up the hobby, almost twenty years ago, I was able to afford it.

Then the price got higher. And Higher. And HIGHER.

And I just wasn't able to keep in the hobby. Here's why I complained. I was just flushed out YEARS ago and now, I couldn't get in even if I wanted to.

Your alternative seem legit to me, but now, I haven't played a game for a long time, because a lack of player in my neighborhood, lack of time, life happening and all that, and I've limited myself to read some BL publication, but as I said in my earlier post even their prices politics was getting weirder and weirder.
03-09-15 02:34 PM
bitsandkits
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Originally Posted by ChaosRedCorsairLord View Post
You're telling me you think the base GoT is 'broken', but the Feast for Crows expansion is balanced? What are you smoking and where can I get some? o.O

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
well i dont smoke if that helps, but yes thats what im saying, if anything though this illustrates the point, your experience of the game differs significantly to mine and the players i play with, dont get me wrong we have enjoyed playing, but after numerous games thats the conclusions we came to, like i was saying about 2nd edition 40k some people hold it up as the holy grail, others dont.

I always think of GW like a summer block buster movie, It rolls up with a really enjoyable movie that makes loads of cash at the box office, loads of people go see it, they buy the pop corn and cokes and t shirts and sound tracks, the film might have some plot holes, the odd wooden performance, but for the most part people enjoy it and are glad they saw it , but it gets panned by the critics and ignored by the Award crowds at Oscar time.



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03-09-15 12:56 PM
ChaosRedCorsairLord
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Originally Posted by bitsandkits View Post
it isnt wrong, its fact, we have played the game many times, different players for each house and evey standard game baratheon won, regardless of which player was using them, it wasnt a matter of whos "doing well", not to mention its a well documented by loads of players, check the forums, the game is flawed.
i think i have the dance of dragons will give it a go, we have swapped to feast of crows as its much better balanced and we are getting different houses winning each game.
You're telling me you think the base GoT is 'broken', but the Feast for Crows expansion is balanced? What are you smoking and where can I get some? o.O

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
03-09-15 12:24 PM
Haskanael
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Originally Posted by ChaosRedCorsairLord View Post
You should see our group play Munchkin. The box says it's a 30-45 minute game, and we make it into a 4-5 hour game, and we all hate each other by the end.
this is why we have the rule "what happens in the game, stays in the game" hehe

but to add my two cents to the discussion, big companies will always make a shitload of mistakes according to their "fans" look at almost every gaming forum... then again Forums tend to be
full of the loud minority.

I realy just about everything 40K related GW has brought in over the past year alone, the only issue I have is that I cant keep up anymore XD
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