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|05-09-14 10:27 PM|
|maximus2467||Dammit! This thread has made me want to do what I call a basic army, all tactical squads, some in rhinos backed up with predators for anti tank. Would take ages to paint|
|05-09-14 09:31 PM|
|05-09-14 11:56 AM|
I don't think tac squads are defensively weak mate, 3+ save is nothing to be sniffed at, not many rank and file squads have that kind of armour and they've got a decent ld value too so they won't run away too easy. Add that to a fair initiative value and you've got a fairly decent defensive unit, just try to take lots of them if your defending. Granted their are ap3 weapons out there but so what? You have to take the rough with the smooth, that's what cover saves are for.
Razorbacks? I know it's cliché but depends on how you want to play and who your main opponents are, fight horde armies a lot? Take assault cannons, face flyers or tanks? Take lascannons, your enemy field a lot of termies? Take the plasma option.
I personally wouldn't take rhinos, if you want a transport to get them into the thick of it then drop pods are the answer I think
|05-09-14 06:20 AM|
What weapon does everybody take or seen taken on the Razorback? Does anybody think it's too expensive of an upgrade? What loadout do people usually take on them, combat squaded or otherwise? When taking the full or combat squad with a Rhino how useful are the two firing points?
Lastly does anybody share my view that tactical squads are defensively weak and rather easy to kill for most things in the game?
I apologize for all the questions but I'm trying to get as much info and experience as I can on these guys to find a way to use them efficiently, if it's even possible.
|05-08-14 04:16 PM|
|05-08-14 02:26 PM|
|ntaw||This Unbound army option has much potential. It's encouraging to play only models that you like/want to.|
|05-08-14 12:12 PM|
|Jace of Ultramar||
Personally, I like Tactical squads. So much to the point that I will field 5 or 6 and just sprinkle in other things for flavour like Predators, Vindicators, and Stormtalons. But, I also use IF Chapter Tactics and typically my Sgt will have a Stormbolter. Special weapons usually don't make it into the squads depending on the support they're getting, be it Vindicator or Predator.
Edit: imagine how many you can potentially run if the Unbound Army rumor is true for the new edition.
|05-07-14 10:30 PM|
Tactical Squad Usefulness
My favorite is the Ultramarines twin-linked alpha strike.
For anti-tank, melta, combi-melta and lascannon in a drop pod. Combat squad the 2 meltas into the drop pod while leaving the lascannon in the backfield.
Against infantry the same strategy works with flamer, combi-flamer and missile launcher.
Against heavy infantry plasma, combi-plasma and plasma cannon.
When just trying to put a scoring unit on the other side of the table I go for 10 Sentinels of Terra with flamer and combi-flamer. Their bolter drill is amazing at presenting a constant backfield threat.
|05-07-14 10:20 PM|
To continue this thought of using RBs with combat squads, consider if you will:
10 man Devatator squads CS'd so that the 5 bolter marines are in the RB rushing up.
Thin as fuck- but if you roll 'Big Guns Never Tire'....wahoo! Scoring units everywhere.
|05-07-14 10:12 PM|
that is an acceptable strategy. 10 man, meltagun, plasmacannon/missile launcher, razorback. combat squad, profit.
costly, yes, but really flexible and threatening. with 220 pts you have a lot to answer hordes and vehicles. complement this with some devastators or bikers and you can be ok.
Tac squads, used this way, can be useful to support a trio of vindicators. razorbacks covers them, unloading tac squads as fit to stop enemies or to neuter armoured threats or capture objectives. usually the cover given should be enugh to let the vindies reach midfield. so units as above + 3 vindie (with stormbolter) 660+390= 1150 for the whole troop lot and heavy support lot. not bad. of course, if we are talking about cheese, just drop pod them or leve the marines on the shelf. you need bikers, and many. sorry for spelling, i'm not properly sober right now.
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