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07-31-08 12:06 PM
Vashtek
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Originally Posted by darklove View Post

How many points is that?
360 exactly
07-31-08 07:23 AM
Pirate Metal Troy STOP SAYING TZEENTCH TERMINATORS!!! Nothing gets a save vs. The Nightbringer...of ANY kind.

<breathes>

That being said. I tested abaddon vs the nightbringer a few times. It's a toss up. With good rolls Abbadon can put the hurt on TNB, but i've had a few times where TNB has gotten the charge, lived, and wiped Abbaddon out in one swipe.

Also, to whoever said it, since they're both independent characters, and both in base contact, TNB can choose to engage only abaddon, thus the wounds go to him.

Though for 90-ish points less than TNB, he puts up a good fight.

Abaddon + 2 chaos termies w/ powerfists seems to be the logical choice. This presents a choice for the mighty nightbringer. TNB can try to kill everything indiscriminately, which lets the Abaddon live a little longer, or just attack abaddon, which allows for 4-6 power fist attacks (depending on who gets the charge) on top of abaddon.

Correct me if I've misread the rules.

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Originally Posted by Wolf_Lord_Skoll View Post
Nids have it easy. 2 fexs talons, toxin sacs, bonded exoskelton, toxic miasma and reinforced chintin. Throw them both into combat and laugh. Even the nightbringer will have some trouble with that, he only has 4 attacks meaning he cant kill one outright.
TNB has 5 attacks, 6 on the charge, so yes, he can kill one outright, but with 4's to wound it's not very likely.
07-29-08 06:22 PM
darklove
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Originally Posted by Wolf_Lord_Skoll View Post
Nids have it easy. 2 fexs talons, toxin sacs, bonded exoskelton, toxic miasma and reinforced chintin. Throw them both into combat and laugh. Even the nightbringer will have some trouble with that, he only has 4 attacks meaning he cant kill one outright.
Why would the Nightbringer attack them? He probably wouldn't, so I don't think they could kill him.

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Originally Posted by Vashtek View Post
24 looters would probably do the job.
How many points is that?
07-29-08 12:51 PM
Vashtek 24 looters would probably do the job.
07-29-08 06:59 AM
Wolf_Lord_Skoll Nids have it easy. 2 fexs talons, toxin sacs, bonded exoskelton, toxic miasma and reinforced chintin. Throw them both into combat and laugh. Even the nightbringer will have some trouble with that, he only has 4 attacks meaning he cant kill one outright.
07-29-08 12:56 AM
Lord Reevan I've taken out the nightbringer usng several tactics. One was aim a crusader or a baal predator at him. or with some range with a full lascannon pred, or a land raider. The twin linked assault cannons do a good bit of hurt but because of the range it's not very safe.... sniper scouts do it pretty well though.... Took him out in the second turn with 10 of them...
Probably the most expensive and Riskiest(but coolest looking) tactics is to have a librarian in a command squad with a chaplain and furious charge. That way on the charge the librarian will get to reroll all failed rolls to hit, need 5's to wound, and if he gets that from a possible 6 attacks he can use his force weapon to make him go totally... unless he's immune to that....
Mephiston near corbulo works very well this way too, as does DC. HAven't used them in 5th. yet though so don't think they'd be as effective....
07-28-08 11:50 PM
Daneel2.0 You and your math

Expect to lose about 4 of the 12 using this tactic, but if all goes as statistic then you should have him on turn 2.
07-28-08 09:36 PM
Wraithian A couple Lash sorcerers and a couple lascannons, in a Chaos Marine list.

As Daneel mentioned for a Daemons army, Skulltaker and Bloodletter fun.

Another thought would be Fiends of Slaanesh spam. 12 of them, to be precise. 72 rending attacks on the charge (provided all of them make it to him, of course). Admittedly, my math sucks ass, but that should be 6 wounds, 3 unsaved, if statistic average, on the charge.

Edited to amend aforementioned suck-ass math.
07-28-08 09:05 PM
darklove
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Originally Posted by Juiceypoop View Post
Rending claw spam, sniper spam, lascannon spam, abaddon, tzeench terminators with powerfists and combi meltas, a great unclean one, plague bearers, obliterators.
pretty weak
07-28-08 04:06 AM
Juiceypoop Rending claw spam, sniper spam, lascannon spam, abaddon, tzeench terminators with powerfists and combi meltas, a great unclean one, plague bearers, obliterators.
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