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08-03-13 08:44 AM
Apostle SonOfStan, on your last point I completely agree, if GW and their BL writing team are successful we will all be twenty years older before they finish the Heresy. As I business owner I understand lasting as long as you can. However I know if for some reason GW starts having financial issues they will fly through the series to make more money. That's how nearly all companies work. Sadly the final battle of Terra is years and years away, I would bet thousands on that.
08-03-13 01:21 AM
SonOfStan I'm honestly glad that 40k isn't any more depressing. I don't want to read 'Game of Thrones in Space' (although it'd be interesting if Martin wrote for the HH, if only to find out that Horus and Sanguinius were secretly lovers the ENTIRE TIME) I like how the whole series gives you the feel of the Imperium constantly in the midst of a 10,000 year long last stand. Lots of heroism and bravery, surrounded by constant lost and a general sense of inevitable doom.

I often find myself wondering how on Earth they'll ever wrap the story up. No business will last forever, and some day in the grimdark of the far, far future GW will have to close up shop. Will they tell the end of the story before then? Or will there be some kind of apocalyptic intellectual property rights battle that prevents anyone from ever letting us know what the effing Hell was in that book on Mars in 'Mechanicum?'
07-31-13 08:01 PM
Beaviz81 Well 40k. tries to pander to everyone (just look at the Tau blatant pandering to Asian stuff). And I think they do that well. I mean they know who their main buyers are that's the group 12-20 male.
07-31-13 11:34 AM
Nordicus
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Originally Posted by bitsandkits View Post
I think many of you are forgetting that your not GWs target age group and some of you havent been for quite some time,
The annual report from GW seems to disagree with you on that one by the way.

Taken from the post at: https://www.heresy-online.net/forums/...d.php?t=127410

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Won’t all your customers move on to computer games instead? (They didn’t; most of our current customers weren’t born when the Atari ST came out.)
07-31-13 10:33 AM
chromedog
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Originally Posted by bitsandkits View Post
I think many of you are forgetting that your not GWs target age group and some of you havent been for quite some time
I don't think I was EVER part of the GW/40k demographic, to be honest.

I know I sure as hell am not part of it now. I'm about 30 years too late for that.

GW was never my "gateway".
GW was never my "only" gaming experience, nor was it ever an exclusive arrangement.
I started playing 40k when I was 19. I stopped for a few years in my mid 20s and then got back in for about 8-9 years in my late 20s. This time period was also way outside the demographic for the game.
07-31-13 09:03 AM
Nordicus
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Originally Posted by bitsandkits View Post
thats pretty much my feelings on it, the numbers really dont work
My thoughts on it have always been, that this adds to the heroism of the Space Marines. The dying supreme humans, who seek to do (questionable) justice and untold heroism in the face of ever greater threats, who are vastly outnumbered and usually always the underdog. They are the Warhammer 40k equivalent of Chuck Norris against a entire drug cartel.

Don't get me wrong, I think Space Marines are the most boring part of the entire Warhammer 40k story as they are as "bling bling Paladin" as they can be, but I can understand the reason why GW takes the stance on them that they do. If they outnumbered everyone, or were even on the same level numberwise, they would be nothing special. It's the fact that they are so few, that gives them their "heroic stance".
07-31-13 08:47 AM
bitsandkits
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Originally Posted by Achaylus72 View Post
Well according to some of the fluff i have read, the Ultramarines Legion had over 600,000, and it constitutes to just about 60%+ of all chapters, while the Dark Angels, Salamanders, Blood Angels have been on the verge of extinction for over 10,000 years.

Not only that but are we really expect to believe that a single company can overcome an entire planetary system with billions of folk fighting it, a Space Marine Company, even a Terminator Company would not last more than a few weeks in combat here on a circa 2013 earth, a few tungsten/ceramic core anti personel rounds would kill one in a minute.
thats pretty much my feelings on it, the numbers really dont work



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07-31-13 04:16 AM
Achaylus72
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I think many of you are forgetting that your not GWs target age group and some of you havent been for quite some time, i look back to when i got into the hobby and the books i was reading, tolkien, fighting fantasy,dragon lance where as my father would have been rocking a Tom clancy, Fredic Forsyth or Arthur C Clarke and wouldnt have dreamed of reading some half assed teen scifi like the HH novels or other GW fare.
GWs demographic has changed, when i started the hobby, the stores were full of people wearing studded leather jacket, with long hair and metal t shirts and iron madien would be blasting out on the store stereo (on cassette damn it!) and youths like me were viewed with suspicion, but that era is long gone and the demographic has gone with it, GW openly admit they target the male 12-20 bracket openly, so naturally the products are going to be geared towards that age group and so is the fluff, To someone whos 12 some of the GW stuff is pretty edgy.

Ok the thing i dont like in the fluff is how the numbers simply dont stack up, a thousand marines per chapter and there are about a thousand chapters blah blah blah, ok i know we have to suspend believe for pretty much everything in 40k but the number of active marines is just total bollocks and for me is the thing drastically in need of correction,its irritated me since i first read it, even the legion numbers are far too low.
At the speed it takes to replace a marine and the number that must die per mission they would not have lasted 10k plus years.
Well according to some of the fluff i have read, the Ultramarines Legion had over 600,000, and it constitutes to just about 60%+ of all chapters, while the Dark Angels, Salamanders, Blood Angels have been on the verge of extinction for over 10,000 years.

Not only that but are we really expect to believe that a single company can overcome an entire planetary system with billions of folk fighting it, a Space Marine Company, even a Terminator Company would not last more than a few weeks in combat here on a circa 2013 earth, a few tungsten/ceramic core anti personel rounds would kill one in a minute.
07-31-13 04:08 AM
Achaylus72
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Originally Posted by mob16151 View Post
Well how else would they win. They only have 1 guy
And unlimited ammo hoppers.
07-31-13 03:49 AM
mob16151
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Originally Posted by locustgate View Post
Ultrasmurfs can win in a 1:1000000000 fight, with little or no casualties.

Well how else would they win. They only have 1 guy
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