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12-13-11 05:56 PM
LukeValantine
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Originally Posted by MadCowCrazy View Post
Well, this can't be true if there are a million worlds in the imperium but only 50k sisters of battle

In the least there has to be millions if not billions. At the very least every world with a billion or more guardsmen has to have a few hundred thousand SoB.

I think the developers can't do math basically. They've forgotten how big the 40k universe really is and how many planets the imperium of man occupy. I believe I've read somewhere that the Sisters defend Ecclisarchy churches and important places, the Ecclesiarchy are also amongst the first on new worlds occupied by humans. Even if there was just a single battle sister on each world with some Ecclesiarichal presence there should be hundreds of thousands of SoB.
I think your forgetting just how derp the math skills of GW are, for instance in wars involving millions of combatants on any given world a single marine would have to kill around 1000 people in each battle to contribute anything to the endless waves of city crushing tanks or billion strong waves of gaunts.
SoB are just the tip of the ice berg when it comes to this mathematical failing.
12-13-11 03:40 PM
MadCowCrazy
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Originally Posted by Majere613 View Post
I'm annoyed they didn't fix that idiotic Penitent Engine misprint. I mean, I assume everyone reads it as 1 with the option of up to 2 more, but that's not what it says and we all know there's someone out there who'll argue the toss about it for three hours.
Perhaps this means squadrons no longer exist in 6E? Has any of the newest codicies had squadrons of any kind? I can't think of anything really since IG with hellhounds etc.
12-13-11 02:49 PM
Kettu
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Originally Posted by MadCowCrazy View Post
Well, this can't be true if there are a million worlds in the imperium but only 50k sisters of battle
Authors in general can't unto maths.

Either they can't add things up, don't add things up or won't add things up.
12-13-11 02:24 PM
Thornin I know of a player whom uses a black templars template if you like (as I cantthink of a better metaphor) that is a very sucsessfull army. Now I know the fluff and stuff doesnt exactly fit but instead of whining and getting narked about something that GW may never fix play it as a alternative or look for something different as a angle to play. Not only is is for a SoB army effective but he had also included bikes and runs a pentient engine as a dread.

If I find pictures of the bikes he uses its the old VOID bikers converted with the fleur de lys emblem on the front carapace two low mounted bolters painted gloss black with a sister riding upon them weilding swords. It sounds very anime and thats indeed how it looks but hell take GW's ball and run with it and have a better time than some anal GW suit bitching about loosing profit margins.

After squats I do intend on making a SoB army to test ouf my skills. But it doesnt mean that ill use GW's rules (when ever do I )
12-13-11 02:06 PM
SilverTabby Everyone bitches about the Sisters entry in the 40k rulebook being tiny. No-one chooses to mention that the GK one is even smaller.

It's lovely to be able to be so very blinkered about things sometimes. Other times it's just irritating and makes the complainant look whiny and childish.

As a Sisters player of over 12 years, I like this list best of what we've had so far. And if I didn't, constant bitching wouldn't change anything, except to put off people trying out the new list (which works just fine, thank you) and so making GW believe that even less people than they thought are interested in Sisters. So we enter the horrible downward Catch 22 spiral, and it's entirely your own fault. So maybe, just maybe, try playing the list and finding ways of enjoying it like I have, or GW may just decide no-one at all likes it and just cans it...
12-13-11 12:00 PM
Majere613 I'm annoyed they didn't fix that idiotic Penitent Engine misprint. I mean, I assume everyone reads it as 1 with the option of up to 2 more, but that's not what it says and we all know there's someone out there who'll argue the toss about it for three hours.
12-12-11 11:25 PM
Necrosis GW employees are only human and the do make mistakes. I seriously stop caring about the sister of battle fluff cause I'm expecting it to change in 6th edition. So let's all calm down about it and wait till 6th edition. If it doesn't change then we can all start raging again.
12-12-11 11:08 PM
MadCowCrazy
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Wherever there are foes of the Emperor, the Sisters of Battle will be found fighting to the last.
Well, this can't be true if there are a million worlds in the imperium but only 50k sisters of battle

In the least there has to be millions if not billions. At the very least every world with a billion or more guardsmen has to have a few hundred thousand SoB.

I think the developers can't do math basically. They've forgotten how big the 40k universe really is and how many planets the imperium of man occupy. I believe I've read somewhere that the Sisters defend Ecclisarchy churches and important places, the Ecclesiarchy are also amongst the first on new worlds occupied by humans. Even if there was just a single battle sister on each world with some Ecclesiarichal presence there should be hundreds of thousands of SoB.
12-12-11 10:46 PM
Azezel
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I heard on a podcast there is a story about Sisters asking a SM legion what they are doing in the sector or some such and they respond by wiping out the Sisters fleet.

This would appear to be a garbled rendition of 'The Ecclesiarchy Comes to Fenris'. Long story short the Space Wolves are heretical wolf-shagging barbarians about this -><- close to worshiping Khorne, so the Ecclesiarchy sent a delegation of Priests to Fenris to ask them if the rumours were true. The Space Wolves shot down the ship full of unarmed Priests and then effortlessly eliminated three whole Orders of sisters who came looking for the Priests.

There were something about imperial space marines eating the brains of people and when the Sisters question this they get killed and eaten as well. Not sure where this story is from but I'm sure someone knows what I'm talking about.

This may be one of two different stories where Space Marines eat Battle sisters, The first concerns the Flesh Tearers, who were eating some militia during one of the Wars for Armagedon. The Sisters tried to stop them, and got eaten too (since retconned to merely killed). The other story involves the Sons of Malice who sacrificed and apparently ate an Inquisitor and her retinue of Celestians during a 'victory celebration'.

Heck in 5E 99% of all the Sisters in the universe suddenly got killed of, they make it seem like there are roughly 50k Sisters in 40k when that number is statistically impossible.
They weren't 'killed off' so much as retconned into a much smaller bracket of possible numbers. No firm number is given in the 5e rulebook, 50k is within the realms of what is said, though. It states that there are "three Major Orders" (no, I don't know either) each numbering "several thousands" and "many lesser sisterhoods comprised of around a hundred or so Battle Sisters"

Goodness me! A hundred, you say.

One hundred thousand would appear to be the upper limit of such language.

My favourite part, though, has to be:

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Originally Posted by 5e Core book
Wherever there are foes of the Emperor, the Sisters of Battle will be found fighting to the last.
The book even says that they are only good for dying... Ye gods of old rome.
12-12-11 07:57 PM
LukeValantine Yep lot of hate coming down the pipe at the SoB from GW these days. Although I have never been a fan of the army they really should be shown as being at least more effective then regular guardsmen (Not going to happen though with imagined pastoral and modern ideals about the inherent nobility of sacrifice and courage in the British military). Hell they do still wear power armor and carry hand held grenade launchers don't they. SoB seem to almost be a back drop for simply illustrating the idiocy of the religious branch of the imerium.

I say this as 40k these days has attached distinct historical archetypes to every army these days. BT are medieval Christianity during the crusades. GK are a heavily romanticized of generally the same concept. While SoB are a kinda of cathartic venting about the disdain for the Spanish inquisitional period, and other frowned upon puritan movements.
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