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|05-08-16 04:51 PM|
If they want to play it straight RAW, or as close as possible; not an uncommon attitude among gamers, even in Apocalypse; then that's fine. Run your CSM using Space Marine rules if you really want to have Drop Pods and stuffs. You won't be able to use Raptors instead of Assault Marines, or Havocs instead of Devastators, but something tells me one wouldn't shed too many tears over that (oh, no, I have to give up my Autocannons so I can have ATSKNF and Grav Cannons! Woe!). If the most terrifying thing they have is a Baronial Court... that's well underneath the potential power levels of Apocalypse. I doubt they're playing because they want you to have a terrible time and just faceroll you.
|05-08-16 09:31 AM|
|loki619||well i was leaning more to c as i am the chaos person but i am thinking i might just drop on them with my corsairs insted and just stay away from the other traitors (just deep strike my whole army)|
|05-08-16 09:31 AM|
Actually unless i'm missing something and they've changed the rules (I play 6th ed apocalypse) page 18 of the apocalypse rulebook pretty much blows their argument out of the water.
pg 18 Apocalypse rulebook "Armies may include any number of units from any codex, plus any number of fortifications and apocalypse formations. No force org restrictions apply to the army. In addition ignore unit restrictions that are normally limited 0-1 or that say you must field one of x to take one of y.."
pg 19 Apocalypse rulebook "Remember you can bring along units from more than one codex."
Heck there's nothing to stop your CSM player from fielding say a helldrake and then running the marines using loyalist rules.
|05-08-16 02:34 AM|
|ntaw||I'll take c|
|05-08-16 02:27 AM|
c. Tell them to fuck off and play apoc amongst the three chaos guys, they sound cooler.
|05-08-16 01:45 AM|
Marine player with five knights..
Does he actually mean knight player with some marine allies?
|05-08-16 01:29 AM|
|loki619||i know i trying to include everyone in a themed game but the marine players as like we want full as wriitten rules with no changes and you guys to play chaos which in my eye is they wana play a complete 1 sided game coz 1 on the marine players has 5 knights and no1 on the other has any superheavys|
|05-07-16 09:03 PM|
|MidnightSun||It's Apocalypse; spend a shitload of time talking to each other beforehand to determine what's okay to use. If you want to use some totally made up rules, you go ahead if everyone agrees. Apocalypse can be great fun, but it can also be a really tiring, horrible experience if you turn up with Aetaeo'rau'keres without telling anyone.|
|05-07-16 01:54 PM|
Nothing wrong here.
Here is a list of containing chaos datasheets you could look into. They used to link to the respective sheets on the GW site, but have been taken down now, so you'll have to do the searching on your own.
Now from this would it be fair to say that this person could run chaos versions of current marine formations for eg a sky hammer using raptors and havocs , or a libby conclave with sorcs ( i know there is 1 in the crim book but its really crappy ) and run a a traitor legion with chapter tacs on stuff that is unmarked making it a chaptor on the turn is does this seem unfair/broken[/quote]
The formations, as long as you and your opponents agreed, I could see and doubt there would be much of a problem. But using a combination of chaos stuff and chapter tactics? That I'm less sure about.
If your going to use marine formations I would try to stick with ones that can make reasonable chaos swaps (like the librarius conclave or the demi company or the armoured task force, replacing the thunderfire cannon either with a second warpsmith or rapier battery.)
|05-07-16 12:48 PM|
At the end of the day, so long as you three clearly communicate and maturely discuss what's being used, do what you want.
If your group collectively feels chaos deserve a little kick into gear and agree that traitor guard are essentially guard, and chaos space marines have tactics based on the codex astartes marines tactics, then by all means mix it up.
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