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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 10-27-13, 11:05 AM Thread Starter
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Saw it on fb, and if it does, it could save me a few quid. I use a lot of Earthshade on my FoW stuff. So, does anybody more knowledgeable about the makeup of the paints know if this is plausible?

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Seems logical. Does laihman's medium taste soapy?

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It is a home made wash. I made that kind of stuff way back when i started to paint. Rinox hide is the pigment-heavy version of agrax eartshade. if you dilute it with water and use soap (dunno why) it should be ok. Mind you: it will NOT be the same as a pod of agrax. But with some trials and errors you can certainly have a proper wash.

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The soap is there for the surface tension. With paint, you put it on and it stays in place. When you put soap into the mix, it doesn't "grab" the surface like plain paint does. This allows you to get that control that a wash has, to get into all the recesses. I've made my own shade/wash before and that's pretty much the formula I used (on a smaller scale though).
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Thanks loki for the explanation i've always wondered the reason why the soap was used.

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The soap is there for the surface tension. With paint, you put it on and it stays in place. When you put soap into the mix, it doesn't "grab" the surface like plain paint does. This allows you to get that control that a wash has, to get into all the recesses. I've made my own shade/wash before and that's pretty much the formula I used (on a smaller scale though).
That's a pretty good explanation!

Basically soap works by reducing the surface tension of the water and allowing it to envelope dirt particles. When there is enough water the dirt particles aren't able to cling to the surface as well and are washed away. Acrylic paint includes a certain amount of detergent chemicals to keep the pigment particles in suspension (fairly evenly distributed throughout the paint liquid.)

Chemicals which have this property are called Surfactants.

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Just to give you an update. I went and bought the paint and even went and bought the exact same soap in the picture. After making the mistake of mixing it in the wrong bottle, I can positively say: DO NOT SHAKE! lol. Stir it in, don't shake. I shook it, not thinking, and made some nice suds. After it settled, I had a perfect wash mix. It works out just the same as the wash. So yeah, you can save some quid by doing this. If you want some pics, I can take a few. But honestly, if you open a bottle of Earthsade, then you'll know exactly what it looks like. Hope this helps you mix with confidence!
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Good stuff Loki. I use a hell of a lot of it on my Flames of War stuff, so even though it's only a couple of quid for the real thing, I'd begrudge paying it if there's a cheaper alternative.
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