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Hey everybody. I thought I would put my list up for cons and pros. I haven't bought anything yet (except for a LRBT), so everything is still possible.

HQ
CCS:
Pf, vox, GL, 2x plasmaguns
2xbodyguard
chim. w/ml/hf
190

Troops

PCS:
boltgun, vox, LC, SR
chim. w/ml/hb
117

3x inf. squads
GL, vox, AC
chim. w/ml/hb
375

2x VetMech
Vox, 3x melta
chim. w/ml/hf
320

Heavy Support

LRBT
w/LC
165

LRBT
w/LC
165

LRD
w/hf
165

total: 1497

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Ok, what you have here is alright, but you have some wargear issues.

1st: Drop the vox casters. Since all your little guys are riding in chimeras, they wont be able to receive orders anyway. If all things go well, they won't even get out of them. So drop those and that would save you 35pts, which would give you enough for a scout sentinel. Or use the points to help out with some of the suggestions below.

2nd: The best (or at least the most generally preferred) way to outfit any command squad is maxing out on the special weapons...usually 4 plasmas or slightly less common 4 meltas.

So lets start with the CCS :Honestly, I'd drop the pfist, you can get yourself another plasma gun. (maybe drop one of the bodyguards as well, so you can trade out the GL with a 4th one)The squad is designed to shoot at stuff, so it will be rare that you would charge something. And if YOU get charged, the squad's chances of survival are slim even with the fist, so you might as well make the squad as good as it can be in the role it is assigned.

PCS: This one is a bit trickier. I can see where you are going with it....using your inf squads as fireing platforms and backing it up with the LC from the PCS. However, you're wasting the PCS ability to support more special weapons. With a BS3 that 1 lascannon shot isn't likely to do much. Additionally, I've only found sniper fire to be effective when grouped en masse (a lot like lasgun fire) Therefore, I would drop both of them. I'd go with 4 meltas. Since you already have melta vets, if you are using them to get up close and personal while the rest of your chimeras sit back and provide fire support, I fear you wont have enough close fire support to keep them alive. With another chimera filled with meltas, and the plasma CCS, you have enough close threats on the board to worry your opponent, while you pound him from afar with your inf squads and Russes.

This is how I would do it, if I were playing the list. Just something to think on

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Shouldn't I let my inf. platoon keep their voxs? My plan is to use them in a hedgehodge formation, so they aren't going to move much.
And what are your thought on swapping one of the vet. squads for a Devil Dog?
Lastly, is it a bad idea to max out on SRs in the PCS?

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Even in the hedgehog formation the troops will be better off inside the armor. Once they are outside you would need to disembark a command squad to give them orders. Not effective. As for sniper rifles, they don't really perform, load up on an alternative special weapon. Flamers are great in the pcs.

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I am pretty sure that IG CCS and PCS can give commands from inside their Chims

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page 29 of the dex
Imperial guard orders, paragraph 4.
An officer may attempt to issue orders provided he is not locked in assault, embarked in a transport, falling back or has gone to ground.

I made that mistake in one of my early games too.

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Read harder...

Page 39, IG Codex. Under "Chimera Armoured Transport"
Special Rules.....

Mobile Command Vehicle: An officer embarked within a Chimera may still issue orders....

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I am pretty sure that IG CCS and PCS can give commands from inside their Chims
Yes they can...just not to any unit that's embarked in a Chimera, etc (read post #6) and that includes themselves - far too noisy apparently

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I stand corrected and may be able to use this to my advantage in the future.

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I stand corrected and may be able to use this to my advantage in the future.
Yea, so all those struggling footslogging Infantry Platoons you use

btw I'm not all - Mech these days...hybrid ftw
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