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The Betrayer: Roboute Guilliman / Ultramarines

Jaghatai Khan / White Scars - Traitor - Tzneetch, the Changer of Ways
Leman Russ / Space Wolves - Loyal
Sanguinius / Blood Angels- Loyal
Angron / World Eaters - Traitor - Blood God, Khorne. (Lol, same result as it turned out)
Magnus the Red / Thousand Sons - Loyal
Lorgar / Word Bearers - Traitor - Chaos Undivided
Fulgrim / Emperor's Children - Loyal
Corax / Raven Guard- Traitor - Chaos Undivided
Perturabo / Iron Warriors - Loyal
Horus / Luna Wolves (It wouldn't be SoH if Horus wasn't Warmaster) - Loyal
Ferrus Manus / Iron Hands - Traitor - Chaos Undivided
Konrad Curze / Night Haunter / Night Lords - Loyal
Mortarion / Death Guard - Traitor - Prince of Pleasure, Slannesh.
Rogal Dorn / Imperial Fists - Traitor - Grandfather Nurge
Vulkan / Salamanders - Loyal
Lion El’Jonson / Dark Angels - Traitor - Chaos Undivided
Alpharius / Omegon / Alpha Legion - Loyal

Loyalists: 9
Traitors: 8 (including the Ultrasmurfs, gave the traitors less because there are so many UM's.)

Hmmm, maybe if my version had happened the Loyalists might have fared better . I'll write this up later when I have time maybe, like Midnights. Oh, and a rep for both Midnight and Ragnar02. .

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It wouldn't be SoH if Horus wasn't Warmaster)
He's still warmaster though. He could be in your alternate fluff, but he's still Warmaster in this generator (they could be LW if you want though). Anyway, Horus could have been very suuccessful or something, and got the honour to rename his legion etc.

"Remember what Bernabus preached? He thought the universe created champions to battle the forces of evil, that we weren't freaks of nature, but carefully chosen warriors. I used to think he was loco, but not any more."- Grubbs Grady, Wolf Island

"Treat them with honour, my Brothers.
Not because they will bring us victory this day,
but because their fate will one day be ours."
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Fair point, but in my backstory which I'm working on, Guilliman becomes the Warmaster instead of Horus and re-names the Ultramarines... "The Sons of Guilliman." And also, I prefer Luna Wolves to Sons of Horus.

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Okay, I've decided to have another go . That okay?

Arch Betrayer: Rogal Dorn & his

Emperorís Children = Traitor - Tzeentch, the Changer of the Ways
White Scars = Traitor - Blood God, Khorne.
Space Wolves = Loyal
Blood Angels = Loyal
World Eaters = Loyal
Ultramarines = Traitor - Chaos Undivided
Thousand Sons = Traitor - Chaos Undivided
Word Bearers = Traitor - Chaos Undivided
Raven Guard = Loyal
Dark Angels = Loyal
Iron Warriors = Traitor - Chaos Undivided
Sons of Horus = Loyal
Night Lords = Traitor - Grandfather Nurgle, Great Lord of Decay
Iron Hands = Traitor - Chaos Undivided
Death Guard = Loyal
Imperial Fists = Traitors - Chaos Undivided
Salamanders = Loyal
Alpha Legion = Loyal

Loyalists: 9
Traitors: 9
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Ok this is what I have so far, if more is wanted I would be more than happy to continue.


The Betrayer – Angron
Emperor’s Children = Loyal
White Scars = Traitor = Prince of Pleasure, Slaanesh
Space Wolves = Traitor = Khorne
Blood Angels = Traitor = Changer Of Ways, Tzeentch
World Eaters = Traitor = Chaos Undivided
Ultramarines = Traitor = Khorne
Thousand Sons = Loyal
Word Bearers = Loyal
Raven Guard = Traitor = Lord Of Decay, Nurgle
Dark Angels = Traitor = Chaos Undivided
Iron Warriors = Traitor = Chaos Undivided
Sons of Horus = Loyal
Night Lords = Traitor = Chaos Undivided
Iron Hands = Loyal
Death Guard = Loyal
Imperial Fists = Loyal
Salamanders = Loyal
Alpha Legion = Loyal

Emperor’s Children:
Upon arriving on Laeran (I think that is correct spelling) Saul Tarvits’ sense of unease grew to heightened levels. He fought his way to his Primarch Fulgrim just in time to place the words of the emperor in his ear. Fulgrim destroyed the Chaos tainted weapon before it had a chance corrupt his loyal soul.

Angron knew that his brother would not be swayed by any words he could put forward to him. At the siege of Terror, the warriors of Fulgrim fought the traitor legions with a fire in their heart. Usually alongside their Brother Legion the Iron Hands, the Emperor’s Children were often deployed by Horus in daring raids against the Iron Warriors siege engines.

White Scars:
The voice of Angron the Great Betrayer reached the ears of Jaghatai Khan before Horus and Magnus could reach him. The Great Khan was shown the untold pleasures that could be wrought upon him by the Dark Prince. The warriors loyal to him captured those loyal to the Emperor in his legion and they were sacrificed to the dark gods. The holy gene seed tainted by foul warp energies and returned to the Khan.

The siege of Terror gave the White Scars and chance to prove themselves to their new master, Slaanesh. They took full advantage of the chance and wreaked a bloody toll in the defenders ranks. Their lightning fats hit and run attacks proving in valuable to the Traitor legion’s attacks.

Space Wolves: At the council of Nikea the Emperor in favour of Magnus, thus allowing the free reign of Librarians within the Legions. Outraged that his most despised brother went un-punished for his acts, Leman Russ was thrown into a violent rage, killing with own wolf guard. Angron took advantage of Leman’s demolished pride and sought to turn his Legion against the Emperor.

Succeeding, Leman became aware of the higher powers of the Warp, and the one in particular that had watched him intently since birth. He and his Legion swore fealty the Lord of Blood, Khorne. By the time the siege of Terra arrived, the Space Wolves, now renamed the Blood Hounds, were poised to strike, a spear ready to be cast. The fell on Terra in their drop pods like steel rain, oaths to the blood god on their lips as they slaughtered civilians and loyal Astartes alike. Always found by Lemans side were his two hounds, now tainted by the warp, transformed into the largest hounds of Khorne ever to walk the material world. Their leash released, they set off into the dark of night, assassinating the commanders and generals of the loyalists. Leaving only a bloody ruin of a body left behind.

Blood Angels: At his first encounter with the Demons of the Warp, Angron was told of their interest in Sagnuinius and the pivotal role he would play in the coming battles. Already corrupted by Chaos, Angron was able to sway the Angel to Chaos. Just like Leman Russ, Sanguinius had his eyes opened to a higher intellect watching him since his inception.

The Changer of Ways, the great conspirator Tzeentch had taken great interest in him after realising he would not be able to break his favoured Primarch, Magnus. Sagnuinius was granted dark powers of sorcery almost on par with those of Magnus. On the surface of Holy Terra, the Blood Angels sought out their great enemy, the Thousand Sons. Having escaped the fury of the Blood Hounds on Prospero, they were set to face vicious casualties in the coming battles.

The Blood Angels forced them to live up to their name, leaving barely one thousand warriors left in the Legion.
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Alright... I'm going to post the list here, but I may have to post the 6+ page fluff accompaniment in its own thread. We're talking near RotT epic sizes, but not nearly as cool. I'll come back and edit in the link to the fluff once it's posted.

Arch Betrayer Ė Perturabo

Emperorís Children = Traitor - Slaanesh
White Scars = Loyal
Space Wolves = Traitor - Khorne
Blood Angels = Loyal
World Eaters = Loyal
Ultramarines = Traitor - Undivided
Thousand Sons = Loyal
Word Bearers = Traitor - Undivided
Raven Guard = Loyal
Dark Angels = Loyal
Iron Warriors = Loyal
Sons of Horus = Traitor - Tzeentch
Night Lords = Loyal
Iron Hands = Traitor - Undivided
Death Guard = Traitor - Undivided
Imperial Fists = Traitor - Undivided
Salamanders = Loyal
Alpha Legion = Traitor Ė Nurgle

Edit: Let's see if I can get this link function to work:
Alternate Heresy, from Ragnar02ís Alternate Heresy Generator

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Thought i'd bring back the generator to have newer people that have been posting on the Houserules and Homebrews have a shot.

If you haven't already don't be afraid to post.

"Remember what Bernabus preached? He thought the universe created champions to battle the forces of evil, that we weren't freaks of nature, but carefully chosen warriors. I used to think he was loco, but not any more."- Grubbs Grady, Wolf Island

"Treat them with honour, my Brothers.
Not because they will bring us victory this day,
but because their fate will one day be ours."
-Astorath the Grim, Blood Angels High Chaplain

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Space Wolves = Khorne
White Scars = Chaos undivided
Blood Angels = Slaanesh chaos
World Eaters = chaos undivided
Thousand Sons = Tzeentch
Dark Angels = Nurgle
Iron Warriors = Arch Heretic
Sons of Horus = Chaos Undivided
Imperial Fists = Chaos

Salamanders = Loyal
Alpha Legion = Loyal
Emperorís Children = Loyal
Ultramarines = Loyal
Word Bearers = Loyal
Raven Guard = Loyal
Night Lords = Loyal
Iron Hands = Loyal
Death Guard = Loyal

this is the layout I have begun writing fluff dont know how to make a link search alternate Heresy: Iron warriors


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Arch Betrayer: Horus

Death Guard = Loyal
Imperial Fists = Loyal
Salamanders = Loyal
Alpha Legion =Loyal
Space Wolves = Loyal
Blood Angels = Loyal
Ultramarines = Loyal
Dark Angels = Loyal
Iron Warriors = Loyal

Sons of Horus = Traitor (Undivided)
Night Lords = Traitor (Undivided)
Iron Hands = Traitor (Undivided)
World Eaters = Traitor (Nurgle)
Emperor’s Children =Traitor (Undivided)
White Scars =Traitor (Slaanesh)
Thousand Sons = Traitor (Undivided)
Word Bearers = Traitor (Khorne)
Raven Guard = Traitor (Tzeentch)

Huh. Apart from the Chaos God dedications and the traitor White Scars, Raven Guard and Iron Hands, this is almost exactly the same as the regular 40k univers. Note that for the last two, I decided myself for the dedication of the last two, since I only had Nurgle and Slaanesh up till then.

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A bit behind, but I came across this and thought it was a neat idea. So I'm gonna go along with it! I wanna get through the Heresy in this 'Battle Report' style before I come up with fluff for it. Anyway, here's what I've got so far:

Emperor’s Children = Arch-Traitors (Undivided)
~80,000
Blood Angels = Traitor (Khorne)
~120,000
Sons of Horus = Traitor (Tzeentch)
~140,000
World Eaters = Traitor (Nurgle)
~100,000
Raven Guard = Traitor (Slaanesh)
~80,000
Word Bearers = Traitor (Undivided)
~240,000
Iron Hands = Traitor (Undivided)
~90,000
Salamanders = Traitor (Undivided)
~60,000
Alpha Legion = Traitor (Undivided)
~90,000
= 1,000,000

Death Guard = Loyal
~60,000
Imperial Fists = Loyal
~100,000
Dark Angels = Loyal
~100,000
Iron Warriors = Loyal
~120,000
Night Lords = Loyal
~120,000
Ultramarines = Loyal
~350,000
Thousand Sons = Loyal
~20,000
White Scars = Loyal
~80,000
Space Wolves = Loyal
~50,000
= 1,000,000

Opening Salvo:
- Isstvan III:
Quell the loyal elements within three Traitor Legions
Outcome: Emperor's Children at almost full strength (~80,000)
Sons of Horus lose 3/10 (~94,000)
Blood Angels at 1/2 strength (~60,000)
- Nocturne:
Salamanders civil war
Outcome: Legion below half strength (~30,000)
Volcanic activity on Nocturne increases
- Isstvan V:
Death Guard, Fists (Veterans), Wolves
vs
Children, Sons, Blood
2nd Wave: Hands (Veterans), Ravens, Eaters, Alpha, Word, Salies
Outcome: Death Guard considered destroyed (~2,000) - stranded
Imperial Fists veteran companies annhilated
Space Wolves destroyed
Leman Russ killed in a duel by Sanguinius
Vulkan slain by Mortarion
Rogal Dorn escaped with Death Guard
Emperor's Children suffer 30% casualties (~54,000)
Sons of Horus casualties at 25% (~71,000)
Blood Angel losses at 20% (~48,000)
Casualties estimates for 2nd wave range between 1 & 10%
- Signus Prime:
Ultramarines vs Deamons and Word Bearers
Outcome: Ultramarines at critical strength (~10,000)
Word Bearers at critical strength (~10,000)
- Olympia:
Iron Hands, Emperor's Children (Honour Company) vs Iron Warriors
Outcome: Iron Warriors defeat Iron Hands
Iron Hands suffer 50% casualties (~45,000)
Emperor's Children Honour Company destroyed
Iron Warriors 42% losses (~65,800)
Olympia is rendered uninhabitable, the surrounding
system is ruined; most worlds left as blasted husks
Levels of toixc radiation are high

Emperor’s Children = Arch-Traitors (Undivided)
~54,000
Blood Angels = Traitor (Khorne)
~48,000
Sons of Horus = Traitor (Tzeentch)
~71,000
World Eaters = Traitor (Nurgle)
~100,000
Raven Guard = Traitor (Slaanesh)
~80,000
Word Bearers = Traitor (Undivided)
~10,000
Iron Hands = Traitor (Undivided)
~45,000
Salamanders = Traitor (Undivided)
~30,000
Alpha Legion = Traitor (Undivided)
~90,000
= 528,000

Death Guard = Loyal
~2,000 (Stranded)
Imperial Fists = Loyal
~80,000 (Veteran Companies destroyed)
Dark Angels = Loyal
~100,000
Iron Warriors = Loyal
~65,000
Night Lords = Loyal
~120,000
Ultramarines = Loyal
~10,000
Thousand Sons = Loyal
~20,000
White Scars = Loyal
~80,000
Space Wolves = Loyal
~Destroyed
= 477,000

Age of Darkness:
- Calth:
Ultramarines retreat to Ultramar, en route are ambushed by Raven
Guard. 'Rescued' by Dark Angels.
Outcome: Ultramarines are further reduced to a meagre ~8,000
Raven Guard forces conduct hit and run boarding actions
that cripple several of the Ultramarines starships.
The Dark Angels force the Raven Guard to retreat.
The Ultramarines are bolstered by novitiates,
boosting their strength to 50,000.
- Ultramar:
Word Bearers vs Ultramarines
Outcome: The Word Bearers persued the Ultramarines half way across
the galaxy, disgorging legions of Cultists they clash with the
numerically superior Ultramarines, and Ultramar Defence Forces.
Many worlds are left in anarchy, with mighty towers dedicated to
Chaos Glory.
The Ultramarines begin the cleansing of Ultramar.
Lorgar is driven insane.
- Eastern Fringe:
Alpha Legion vs Night Lords
Outcome: Ultima Segmentum in anarchy, between Night Lord pro-
-Imperial terror compaigns and Alpha Legion insurgents
Alpha Legion cripple the Night Lords and withdraw.
Night Lords suffer 60% casualties (~48,000)
Alpha Legion lose 30% of total Legion strength (~60,000)
Campaign lasts five years.

"From the fires of Betrayal unto the blood of revenge we bring the name of Lorgar,
The Bearer of the Word, the favoured Son of Chaos,
All praise be given to him."
-- Book 3:41, Epistles of Lorgar

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