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"They will hear us roar, but they will not be ready" an extract from the Scriptures, credited to Vis Dux Romero.


"The Silent Lions chapter symbol, worn on every marines shoulder"

The Silent Lions

The Silent Lions are a Chapter born from the death of another. A descendant of the treacherous Chapter "The Golden Sentinels" they were forged by the select few of The Golden Sentinels that remained loyal to the Emperor. They are hunted by the Imperium for the crimes of their brothers and hounded by Chaos for their loyalty. In a hostile universe with no-one to turn to, the Silent Lions must forge a new path if they wish to survive...


"The loyalist Golden Sentinels fight to hold back their treacherous battle-brothers"

Homeworld

The Silent Lions have no planet to call home. After the treachery of their brothers, Vis Dux Romero, the chapter's founder, turned the guns of the Chapter Fleet upon the Golden Sentinels home planet, Miros, to eradicate all trace of heresy. With no homeworld from which to draw recruits from, the Silent Lions numbers are waning quickly with no sign of being replenished...


"Miros is destroyed by the Silent Lions"

Fortress-Monastery

With the only planet the Silent Lions had called home, Miros, destroyed by their own guns, the Chapter now resides within their Fleet. The Flagship, "Romero's Own", an Oberon Class Battleship, is the pride of the fleet and rightly so. "Romero's Own" has acted as the Silent Lion's Fortress Monastery since the chapter was forged and will continue to do so until it's destruction, or the Chapters, as every marine in the chapter will die rather than let "Romero's Own" fall into the hands of the enemy...


"Romero's Own emerges from the Warp to assault the Chapter's enemies"

Recruitment

Without a homeworld and with no planets under their command, the Silent Lions has not received a new recruit since the Chapter was formed. Their numbers are falling with no sign of stopping. Although, upon the worlds they have saved, men may have offered themselves up to the Chapter, the Silent Lions are deeply suspicious of heresy and so have turned away all applicants. But can they continue as they lose more and more battle-brothers?


"The Silent Lions continue to fight the enemies of the Emperor, but every death brings them closer to extinction.

Beliefs

The Silent Lions are still loyal to the Emperor until death, although the very people they fight to protect see them as traitors and heretics. Because of this, the Silent Lions will not fight beside any other Loyal army, as the distrust between them runs too deep for them to ever cooperate.

Among the Silent Lions there are a large number who display the "gift" of psychic power. These potentials are picked up at a young age and trained in using their ability to protect themselves from the pull of Chaos lest they turn against their brothers. Because of this there is a large number of Librarians within the chapter, known as Vis.


"A Silent Lions Vis brings death to his foes"

Organisation

The Silent Lions, separated from the Imperium for so long, have moved away from the Codex.

The Chapter is led by a Vis Dux rather than a Chapter Master, too much treachery has come from Chapter Masters for the Chapter that they turned to the most powerful of their Vis to lead them.

Due to the rapidly decreasing number of Silent Lions, it is impossible to field ten full companies. Only three companies remain to the Silent Lions, and even those are under strength.

The First Company, known as "The Praesul" is made up entirely of Vis. Numbering at roughly one hundred, the Vis are all veterans of a thousand wars and highly skilled warriors, willing to lay down their lives for the Chapter. It is from here that the Vis Dux is taken from and therefore the leader of "The Praesul" and the Chapter as a whole is the Vis Dux. "The Praesul" have never fought at the same time in one place, instead they fight wherever they are most needed and fight to the death.

The Second Company, known as "The Immanus" is a company that consists of those Silent Lions that have proved themselves worthy of donning Terminator Armour. The Chapters supply of said armour is extremely limited, so "The Immanus" numbers no more than one hundred. Like "The Praesul" the Silent Lions "Immanus" will not fight as one group, rather as many, spread across wherever the Chapter needs them. "The Immanus" are led by Loran Impra, known as the "Diruo".

The Third Company, known as "The Collatus" are the rest of the Chapter. However that is not to say that they are un-experienced, any Space Marine capable of surviving constant warfare for hundreds of years in undoubtedly a veteran, and those of "The Collatus" are no different. Feircly loyal to the Silent Lions, it is from "The Collatus" that the Vis Dux draws his Honour Guard. "The Collatus" are led by Ju Asror, known as the "Letum".

The Vis Dux himself, Valorus Bak, has an Honour Guard, or "Totella" of ten Marines, selected from "The Collatus" and two apprentices, or "Resisca", taken from "The Praesul".


"Vis Dux Valorus Bak calls upon the powers of the Warp to bring death down upon his enemies"

Noted Characters

Romero:

The founding father of the Silent Lions, Romero was the first Vis Dux and forged the chapter into what it is today.

A Librarian of the Golden Sentinels before their betrayal, Romero sensed the upcoming treachery and so gathered those marines that remained loyal and marched against the Golden Sentinels upon Miros itself.

A Librarian and warrior without peer, Romero led the Silent Lions across the stars for one hundred years, until he left the chapter, entering the warp never to return. It is said that even now, Romero is within the warp, hunting the remnants of the Golden Sentinels. It is because of his sacrifice that, every one hundred years, the Vis Dux travels into the warp, following in Romero's footsteps. Some of the most powerful psykers seen in the Imperium have been lost to the Warp.

Valorous Bak:

Valorous is the Silent Lions current Vis Dux, and the fifth Vis to hold the title since Romero left the Chapter.

Valorous is an extremely powerful Vis and is recognized as such by the Chapter. Inspired by his bravery and skill, those around him fight all the harder.

Like all Vis Dux, Valorous was selected by the one who went before him, Amael Dorus. Valorous was one of the two "Resisca" selected by Amael to follow in his footsteps.

When the other "Resisca" fell to a Ork Warboss Klaw just days before Amael was to leave for the Warp it was left to Valorous to take over the command of the Chapter.

Valorous still does not know whether Amael was going to choose him or not, but he has proved himself as a fine choice a hundred times over.


"Model used to represent Valorous"

Loran Impra

Loran has held the title "Diruo" since Romero founded the Chapter. He is a stalwart warrior, unmovable in defense and ferocious in attack.

Being the highest ranking member of the Silent Lions with very limited psychic powers puts large amounts of pressure upon the marine veteran but he has proven to his battle-brothers that he is a fine leader and as loyal as a bulldog.

Loran has been a leader of the Chapter since it's forging. He was the Captain of the Golden Sentinels 1st Company and it was to him that Romero first came.

Loran agreed with Romero and thanks to the aid of Loran's terminators, Romero was able to win the day and forge the chapter that Loran is now part of.


"Model used to represent Loran"

Ju Asror:

Ju is the second Collatus to hold the title of Letum, the first falling when the Silent Lions first broke away from the Golden Sentinels in the chaos that followed.

Ju took up the sword of his predecessor and with it beheaded the Greater Demon that had burst from the warp and fallen upon Romero and his Honour Guard.

Ju, as well as leading the Collatus as the Letum, is also the commander of the Vis Dux Honour Guard. He has seen six Vis Dux pass through and has fought for them each a hundred times.

Ju is an unrivaled swordsman and indeed, when the Ork Warboss fell upon Amael and slew one of his Resisca it was Ju who drove his blade through the beast's chest.

His blade itself is a Master-Crafted Relic Blade that goes by the name "Telum". It hails from an age long forgotten and is a relic of the chapter


"Model used to represent Ju"

History


The Golden Sentinels

The Golden Sentinels were created in 538.M41 as a Crusade chapter, gene-seed descendants of a long forgotten Chapter, destined to roam the vast and empty reaches of space for eternity. Isolated and ignored by the Imperium ,the Golden Sentinels were provided with a small Chapter Fleet, little more than a handful of Strike Cruisers, before being dispatched to watch over an empty stretch of space in the Segmentum Obscurus. It is unclear whether it was this isolation, or the close proximity of their patrols to the Eye of Terror that caused the Golden Sentinels to turn away from the God-Emperor's light and embrace the Chaos Gods.

Heresy found

It was Romero, one of the Golden Sentinels most gifted Librarian, that first sensed the taint of Chaos. Keeping his thoughts to himself, fearing that any he confided in where touched by Chaos themselves, Romero travelled through the Chapter, discovering just how deeply the heresy was spread within the Golden Sentinels. What he found shocked him to the core. For not only was the ranks of the Golden Sentinels rife with Chaos, but also the Captains, and even the Chapter Master. And so he gathered those he trusted most, those few that remained true to the Emperor, and marched against those that had betrayed them.

Clash of Gold

Just days before the Golden Sentinels Chapter Master, Lustig Forlan, pledged the Chapter to the Chaos Gods and opened a webway gate to the Demon Horde waiting just within the Warp, Romero met him within the city of Miros and Brother fought Brother upon the streets, their blood running into the gutters. In the very heart of the conflict, where the fighting was most fierce, Romero, his eyes burning with unbridled power, and Loran, his Terminator Armour knocking aside those that opposed him, side by side, closed upon what the Golden Sentinels Chapter Master, Lustig Forlan, had become.

Born of Corruption

While the Golden Sentinel clashed with Golden Sentinel all around them, Romero and Loran approached the Greater Demon that had once been their proud Chapter Master. For just as Romero had sensed the Chaos Gods, the Chaos Gods had sensed Romero and reached out from the Warp to bestow great power upon Lustig. But that power had consumed him, and now he was nothing more than a monster, but a great danger all the same.

Heroic Intervention

As Romero and Loran came ever closer to the Demon, it seemed to sense them and turned. There was a moment of quiet, as silence fell across the battle, all eyes upon the three warriors. And then that silence was shattered by a roar and the thunder of feet as the Greater Demon charged towards Romero and Loran. Romero hurled lightning towards the Demon, but it did not falter. Loran crouched and clenched his Power Sword, ready to combat the Demon. Antipholus, a member of the Lustig’s own Honour Guard, stepped into the path of what was once of his leader and drew his sword, Telum. The two assailants clashed and both struck too quickly for the eye to follow. It lasted only a few seconds, but the Demon drove his sword, fiery and almost six feet long through Antipholus’ chest, sending Telum spinning from his grasp.

Wounded

Yet Antipholus had not given his life in vain. For in those few seconds of combat, man against monster, Telum had stuck true, tearing a great and bloody wound into the chest of the Great Demon, black blood spilling forth from the rip upon his armour. The Demon’s breathing was ragged and for just a moment it staggered, its eyes swimming out of focus. But that second was all that Loran needed.

Finished

With a roar of defiance Loran charged the Demon. He slammed into the monsters legs, his Terminator Armour’s bulk knocking it to its knees. Romero called upon all his powers, throwing the Warp itself at the Demon, leaving it helpless and defenceless. Ju, nothing more than an Assault Marine at the time, grasped Telum from where it lay upon the ground and with one almighty blow, severed the Demons head, sending the lifeless body sprawling to the ground.

Retreat

With the sudden dispatch of their leader at the hands of Romero and no aid coming from beyond the Warp, hundreds of the traitorous Golden Sentinels boarded the Strike Cruisers of the Chapter and fled, running into the Warp. Romero had no choice but to watch them go, for the Space Marines were left isolated upon the Planet.

Discovery

Yet, when all hope of leaving the planet seemed lost bar the building of a whole new ship on a non-forge world, Romero’s techmarines, those that had remained loyal to the Emperor, fell before him and begged his audience. Granting it Romero learnt of a Light Cruiser, old and derelict, abandoned upon the planet in a long forgotten era.

Salvation

Romero himself led the Techmarines on board the silent and empty ship. There were technologies within that even the eldest and most skilled Techmarine could not identify and yet, through their combined efforts, they succeed in starting the ships engines for the first time in thousands of years. The Silent Lions were no longer trapped upon Miros, they had a way out.

Departure

Loading the small portion of the Golden Sentinels that Romero still called his battle-brothers upon the Cruiser, the Chapter left, never to return. The planet they left behind was far from what it had once been. The fighting between the Golden Sentinels and their treacherous comrades had torn great marks in the once thriving hive world and no life remained.

Reborn

The Golden Sentinels floated through space, with no course and no aim, for years. But this time was not wasted, for Romero gathered his most trusted advisors around him and began to form a new Chapter, to rise triumphant from the ashes of their betrayal. And so it was within the confined corridors of a forgotten Light Cruiser that the Silent Lions, a loyalist non-Codex Chapter destined to patrol Imperial Space till it’s destruction.

Romero gone

It was only a few days after the Silent Lions were created that Romero left the Chapter forever. Taking nothing but a small craft he plotted a route to the Eye of Terror itself and bade farewell to the Chapter that would come to see him as their Primarch. Just before he left however, he named his successor, Gabriel Litius.

The Chapter under Gabriel

Gabriel is remembered, and will be for the duration of the Silent Lions life for being the Vis Dux to lead the Chapter during one of its most turbulent times. Just months after Romero left and Gabriel took over the newly formed Chapter, the Light Cruiser that the Silent Lions had taken as their home was approached by an Imperial Fleet. Gabriel hailed the Imperial Navy as allies only to come under fire.

Reacting quickly to the dire situation that he found himself in, Gabriel ordered the Silent Lions to combat for the first time since the betrayal. In a battle that truly reflected the superiority of the Adeptus Astartes over the average Man, the Silent Lions destroyed the fleet in a matter of hours, Gabriel himself leading the boarding action upon the Fleet’s flagship.

The Silent Lions Techmarines tapped inside the flagships computers and found orders directly issued to the fleet to target and destroy the Traitor chapter, The Golden Sentinels.

It was then that Gabriel realized that there was no future for the Silent Lions waiting with the Imperium, for they were seen as heretics and traitors, the very thing that they hated most.

The next hundred years was a desperate race as the Silent Lions sought to escape the Fleets sent against them. And yet, despite the chaos of the Silent Lions situation, Gabriel turned towards the Eye of Terror, just as Romero had one hundred years before, and left the Chapter in the hands of Ducuro Antulox.

The Chapter under Ducuro

Ducuro is renowned for successfully ending the constant fight for survival that the Silent Lions had been forced to endure under Gabriel. But this was not done through show of force against the Imperium, rather the complete opposite.

Ducuro led the Silent Lions into a war against the Imperium’s enemies once more, after a century of defending against Imperial Forces.

Descending from orbit, driving the enemy from the planet and then slipping away once more, the silent, golden warriors became renowned in many systems. They were gone before the inhabitants could even realize they had been saved and yet, when the Imperium reached the liberated world, they were told of their saviors, the Space Marines that had called themselves the Silent Lions, and the Golden Sentinels.

And so it was decided, by the high power of the Imperium, that the hunt for the heretical Golden Sentinels Chapter should be called off until the ‘Silent Lions’ stopped their aid of Imperial Worlds.

A century of war in the Emperors name marked Ducuro’s time as Vis Dux of the Silent Lions, yet just as Romero and Gabriel did before him, he turned towards the Eye of Terror and slipped away, leaving Catanus Augaz to lead in his wake.

The Chapter under Catanus

One of Catanus’ first actions as Vis Dux is the one he is best remembered for. The Light Cruiser, that still served as Fortress-Monastery for the Silent Lions, came upon a Space Hulk of incredible size, a Battleship the likes of which none within the Chapter had seen. Catanus ordered a boarding action and Loran Impra agreed to lead a contingent of “Immanus” aboard the Space Hulk in an attempt to salvage any relics within.

Catanus was forced to wait outside the Hulk for four days, the com-link cut off by the energy surrounding the Space Hulk. He was unsure whether Loran was alive and was cautious to send more Silent Lions to their potential deaths.

And yet, 98 hours after Loran led his forces into the Space Hulk, he emerged alive. However of the seven Terminator-clad Silent Lions that had entered the Space Hulk with him, only two survived to leave it.

Deeming the Space Hulk safe for a more detailed inspection by the Chapters Techmarines, they fell eagerly upon the horde of forgotten knowledge that awaited them within the Space Hulk.

However to the Techmarines immense surprise, they found that the Space Hulk was still fully functioning and, after repairing the slight damage from neglect upon the Battleship, the engines roared once more within the mighty Imperial ship.

For the next one hundred years, the Silent Lions continued to defend the Imperium, now with the added power of an Oberon Class Battleship that Catanus named Romero’s Own in memory of the SIlent Lions founder. The Chapter adopted Romero’s Own as their new Fortress-Monastery and it has served as such up till this day.

Catanus was the first Vis Dux to take two Resisca’s as apprentices to take his place when he inevitably turned to the Eye of Terror as all those who led before him had. He was succeeded by Amael Dorus.

The Chapter under Amael

Amael forged the Chapter into what it is now. He realized that the numbers of the Silent Lions were quickly dropping and, due to the deep mistrust and suspicion of heresy, there were no new recruits coming into the Chapter.

So Amael broke up the Codex system of Companies and instead formed three new groups, each with a unique purpose and leader. Not only that but Amael began to create a whole new style of warfare that the Silent Lions have adopted ever since.

Many say Amael was taken away too soon, for he had transformed the Chapter in only a century, what could he have done with more time? Yet it was his duty to follow Romero and all those who had gone before him as Vis Dux into the Eye of Terror, part punishment and part mission of vengeance. Amael named Valorous Bak, the lone surviving Resisca, as his successor.

The Chapter under Valorous

Valorous is 83 years into his century of service as Vis Dux and had proven himself to be a fierce warrior. The Silent Lions have taken more worlds under his command than they have under any of the previous Vis Dux.

Yet Valorous faces perhaps the greatest challenge, for as the Imperium collapses, what will the Silent Lions have left to fight for?

Any Comments and/or feedback would be great! The Chapter symbol and color scheme is below


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Winter Falls

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Oh yes an outcast chapter it wouldn't surprise me if there were more outcast chapters then any other space marine factions in the 40k universe.

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I created this history around a scenario me and my friends play so I wanted it to be flexible in playing with any 40k army.

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Thank you very much my Rep used to much higher but I haven't been on for a long time so I imagine my Rep power vanishes due to inactivity; but its all good

I could see your Silent Lions doing well in an Apocalypse game where you can use a few SM codeces instead of just one to best represent the variable differences of your chapter.
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Oh I was unaware well then its a good thing I am working on an update for my Black Dogs.

Yeah I recently played an Apocalypse game using the codeces of the Black Templars, Space Wolves and Blood Angels as big Black Dogs count as force.

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The Silent Lions are a Chapter born from the death of another. A descendant of the treacherous Chapter "The Golden Sentinels" they were forged by the select few of The Golden Sentinels that remained loyal to the Emperor. They are hunted by the Imperium for the crimes of their brothers and hounded by Chaos for their loyalty. In a hostile universe with no-one to turn to, the Silent Lions must forge a new path if they wish to survive...
A solid enough foundation. This chapter, or rather warband, is forged out of the corpse of a broken chapter. This doesn't really tell the whole story though, but does enough to get things going.

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With the only planet the Silent Lions had called home, Miros, destroyed by their own guns, the Chapter now resides within their Fleet. The Flagship, "Romero's Own", an Oberon Class Battleship, is the pride of the fleet and rightly so. "Romero's Own" has acted as the Silent Lion's Fortress Monastery since the chapter was forged and will continue to do so until it's destruction, or the Chapters, as every marine in the chapter will die rather than let "Romero's Own" fall into the hands of the enemy...
Why do they have an Imperial battleship under their command? Wouldn't they have a Battle-Barge? They had to escape the Golden Sentinels somehow. If they destroyed them, then they could have offered themselves up to the Imperium for the crimes of their kin and brought their broken and dead corpses before the Inquisition to prove their loyalty. They could have been redeemed. Or better yet, they could have done what so many have done and kept things hush-hush and just swept the whole incident under the rug.

I'm going to assume that they didn't and, being numerically inferior to their traitor-brethren, had to breakout and flee. They must have done so on a Astartes-styled vessel. Either a Battle-Barge or a series of Strike Cruisers. A single Battle-Barge could hold all three companies, especially if under-strength. Three Strike Cruisers could accomplish the same. There is no reason for them to be running around with an Oberon-Class Battleship especially when Astartes vessels are often more advanced and versatile.

Or did they steal it? If they did so, then that wouldn't be very loyalist of them would it? It wouldn't be too evil of them either, but then you'd need to at least explain why they gave up their own vessels and stole a battleship.

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Without a homeworld and with no planets under their command, the Silent Lions has not received a new recruit since the Chapter was formed. Their numbers are falling with no sign of stopping. Although, upon the worlds they have saved, men may have offered themselves up to the Chapter, the Silent Lions are deeply suspicious of heresy and so have turned away all applicants. But can they continue as they lose more and more battle-brothers?
Astartes who are declared traitors usually do not proclaim themselves to the worlds they visit. Men also do not offer themselves to Astartes because men are too advanced to undertake the training. Boys do, and young, impressionable boys offer themselves up for anything shiny, metallic, with a big gun.

Why would they refuse to recruit because of possible taint? Couldn't Chaplains scour the souls of recruits to check for taint? Wouldn't Librarians observe their minds to find traces of heresy? For a chapter, especially one hunted by the Imperium and Chaos, to completely abandon all recruitment while still actively crusading is completely foolish of them. Of coarse unless they are actively suicidal.

[/quote]Among the Silent Lions there are a large number who display the "gift" of psychic power. These potentials are picked up at a young age and trained in using their ability to protect themselves from the pull of Chaos lest they turn against their brothers. Because of this there is a large number of Librarians within the chapter, known as Vis.[/quote]

The Chapter is too paranoid of corruption to recruit. How is this process evening happening?

Secondly -- for a chapter so paranoid of corruption to halt recruitment they do seem to be pretty lax on their policy towards psykers (those who actually have the most potential for corruption). Seems contradictory.

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The Chapter is led by a Vis Dux rather than a Chapter Master, too much treachery has come from Chapter Masters for the Chapter that they turned to the most powerful of their Vis to lead them.
What is the difference between the two positions? All I can see here is the same, exact position with a different title. Therefore the chapter has done nothing to really halt the potential for betrayal or corruption.

Also with the First Company falling under the direct control of the Vis Dux -- it further complicates this. Since they've now given this new position the exact same manpower under him that a Chapter Master would normally have. If not more, as in some Chapters the Master is the leader and often just runs around doing leader-stuff while the First Company answers to the First Captain.

Even in chapters were the Chapter Master basically commands the First Company -- there is still a First Captain and it is never (in my experience) the same person. You've now combined the two positions, removing from this new Vis Dux the only person who could ever really stand against him with force of arms. The First Captaincy is, in some respects, a power-check to the Chapter Master. He commands the First Company and his Veteran Marines are often loyal to him. This is also played out by the Forge Master, Chief Librarian, and Chief Apothecary.

For a chapter to fall all of these positions must either be subverted or outright destroyed.

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It was only a few days after the Silent Lions were created that Romero left the Chapter forever. Taking nothing but a small craft he plotted a route to the Eye of Terror itself and bade farewell to the Chapter that would come to see him as their Primarch. Just before he left however, he named his successor, Gabriel Litius.
Erm ... what? The founder of the chapter, who barley survived betrayal from within, just up and left for the Eye of Terror -- the single greatest concentration of corruption and demons in the known universe? And they just let him walk away? Like nothing was the matter and him leaving them to their fates was just another day on the bridge?

So paranoid of corruption are they? If they were that scared they'd have blasted his shuttle the moment he left the ship or arrested him immediately. Why would he leave them when they needed him the most? Or was he just a coward?

Most of all why the hell did they accept his heir to the throne of a position which holds way more power than they should logically allow given their paranoia of taint? If anything that should have damned Gabriel Litius and he should have been exiled via airlock.

Not trying to smash you down here Romero. But these are some glaring issues that need clarity if the fluff of your chapter is to make more sense.


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A solid enough foundation. This chapter, or rather warband, is forged out of the corpse of a broken chapter. This doesn't really tell the whole story though, but does enough to get things going.


Why do they have an Imperial battleship under their command? Wouldn't they have a Battle-Barge? They had to escape the Golden Sentinels somehow. If they destroyed them, then they could have offered themselves up to the Imperium for the crimes of their kin and brought their broken and dead corpses before the Inquisition to prove their loyalty. They could have been redeemed. Or better yet, they could have done what so many have done and kept things hush-hush and just swept the whole incident under the rug.

Ok, I clearly state how they came into possession of a Battleship. In fact I can quote myself as having done so.

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The Light Cruiser, that still served as Fortress-Monastery for the Silent Lions, came upon a Space Hulk of incredible size, a Battleship the likes of which none within the Chapter had seen. Catanus ordered a boarding action and Loran Impra agreed to lead a contingent of “Immanus” aboard the Space Hulk in an attempt to salvage any relics within.

Catanus was forced to wait outside the Hulk for four days, the com-link cut off by the energy surrounding the Space Hulk. He was unsure whether Loran was alive and was cautious to send more Silent Lions to their potential deaths.

And yet, 98 hours after Loran led his forces into the Space Hulk, he emerged alive. However of the seven Terminator-clad Silent Lions that had entered the Space Hulk with him, only two survived to leave it.

Deeming the Space Hulk safe for a more detailed inspection by the Chapters Techmarines, they fell eagerly upon the horde of forgotten knowledge that awaited them within the Space Hulk.

However to the Techmarines immense surprise, they found that the Space Hulk was still fully functioning and, after repairing the slight damage from neglect upon the Battleship, the engines roared once more within the mighty Imperial ship.

For the next one hundred years, the Silent Lions continued to defend the Imperium, now with the added power of an Oberon Class Battleship that Catanus named Romero’s Own in memory of the SIlent Lions founder. The Chapter adopted Romero’s Own as their new Fortress-Monastery and it has served as such up till this day.
Oh wait, something else I can quote myself as explaining. Why couldn't they redeem themselves, or sweep it under the rug? Because A) they didn't beat the traitors so they didn't exactly have any bodies to offer up. And B)

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.....the Light Cruiser that the Silent Lions had taken as their home was approached by an Imperial Fleet. Gabriel hailed the Imperial Navy as allies only to come under fire......The Silent Lions Techmarines tapped inside the flagships computers and found orders directly issued to the fleet to target and destroy the Traitor chapter, The Golden Sentinels.
I'm going to assume that they didn't and, being numerically inferior to their traitor-brethren, had to breakout and flee. They must have done so on a Astartes-styled vessel. Either a Battle-Barge or a series of Strike Cruisers. A single Battle-Barge could hold all three companies, especially if under-strength. Three Strike Cruisers could accomplish the same. There is no reason for them to be running around with an Oberon-Class Battleship especially when Astartes vessels are often more advanced and versatile.

Ok, I'm starting to think you didn't even read the thing before trying to shoot holes in it. Lets read a bit further and, oh look. There's an explanation right in front of you.

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With the sudden dispatch of their leader at the hands of Romero and no aid coming from beyond the Warp, hundreds of the traitorous Golden Sentinels boarded the Strike Cruisers of the Chapter and fled, running into the Warp. Romero had no choice but to watch them go, for the Space Marines were left isolated upon the Planet.

Yet, when all hope of leaving the planet seemed lost bar the building of a whole new ship on a non-forge world, Romero’s techmarines, those that had remained loyal to the Emperor, fell before him and begged his audience. Granting it Romero learnt of a Light Cruiser, old and derelict, abandoned upon the planet in a long forgotten era.

Romero himself led the Techmarines on board the silent and empty ship. There were technologies within that even the eldest and most skilled Techmarine could not identify and yet, through their combined efforts, they succeed in starting the ships engines for the first time in thousands of years. The Silent Lions were no longer trapped upon Miros, they had a way out.
Or did they steal it? If they did so, then that wouldn't be very loyalist of them would it? It wouldn't be too evil of them either, but then you'd need to at least explain why they gave up their own vessels and stole a battleship.

Astartes who are declared traitors usually do not proclaim themselves to the worlds they visit. Men also do not offer themselves to Astartes because men are too advanced to undertake the training. Boys do, and young, impressionable boys offer themselves up for anything shiny, metallic, with a big gun.

OK, where did I suggest they proclaimed themselves? What I did say, if you'd read it...

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...the silent, golden warriors...
Why would they refuse to recruit because of possible taint? Couldn't Chaplains scour the souls of recruits to check for taint? Wouldn't Librarians observe their minds to find traces of heresy? For a chapter, especially one hunted by the Imperium and Chaos, to completely abandon all recruitment while still actively crusading is completely foolish of them. Of coarse unless they are actively suicidal.

If you've had almost your entire Chapter turn traitor, despite the fact that all the recruits had gone through thorough Chaplain and Librarian scrutiny, meaning that it wouldn't really mean you would trust that method? I mean, think about it. And I'm sorry that I added a twist into my home-brew Chapter. I'll be sure to fix that.... or not.

The Chapter is too paranoid of corruption to recruit. How is this process evening happening?

Secondly -- for a chapter so paranoid of corruption to halt recruitment they do seem to be pretty lax on their policy towards psykers (those who actually have the most potential for corruption). Seems contradictory.

The Chapter was saved by a psyker, so they are going to respect them a lot. And ever since the Silent Lions foundation they have been led by psykers, so they all have a deep respect and trust in them.

What is the difference between the two positions? All I can see here is the same, exact position with a different title. Therefore the chapter has done nothing to really halt the potential for betrayal or corruption.

Seriously? You really didn't pick that up? Well let me point you in the right direction. Oh wait, it's already written there. I handily tell you that the Chapter's librarians are called Vis. So could that possibly mean that a Vis Dux is a psyker as well? Surely not?

Also with the First Company falling under the direct control of the Vis Dux -- it further complicates this. Since they've now given this new position the exact same manpower under him that a Chapter Master would normally have. If not more, as in some Chapters the Master is the leader and often just runs around doing leader-stuff while the First Company answers to the First Captain.

Even in chapters were the Chapter Master basically commands the First Company -- there is still a First Captain and it is never (in my experience) the same person. You've now combined the two positions, removing from this new Vis Dux the only person who could ever really stand against him with force of arms. The First Captaincy is, in some respects, a power-check to the Chapter Master. He commands the First Company and his Veteran Marines are often loyal to him. This is also played out by the Forge Master, Chief Librarian, and Chief Apothecary.

For a chapter to fall all of these positions must either be subverted or outright destroyed.

So your'e saying that having one person in control of a Company let alone a Chapter is a bad idea? So your'e also saying that every single Chapter Master or Company Captain should be removed because they are all going to turn traitor?

And if you had read anything, you would know that if the Vis Dux did turn traitor, he would have to turn 100 powerful veteran psykers, and then fight almost 200 elite Terminators and other Marines. And besides, they are all feircly loyal to the Emperor, even over the Vis Dux.

To round it off the Vis Dux is the cheif Librarian. Either Loran Impra or Ju Asror, can easily fill the role of First Captain.


Erm ... what? The founder of the chapter, who barley survived betrayal from within, just up and left for the Eye of Terror -- the single greatest concentration of corruption and demons in the known universe? And they just let him walk away? Like nothing was the matter and him leaving them to their fates was just another day on the bridge?

So paranoid of corruption are they? If they were that scared they'd have blasted his shuttle the moment he left the ship or arrested him immediately. Why would he leave them when they needed him the most? Or was he just a coward?

Again, I'm sorry for adding a twist to my DIY chapter. It's a grievous sin and I'll be sure to remove it. And besides, Romero was one of the most powerful psykers ever. He knew that he could do more good fighting Chaos right within the Eye of Terror than leading his Chapter. He knew that the Chapter would thrive in his memory more that if he was leading them.

And he had just saved them from extinction, they wern't exactly going to jump in his way and say he can't leave.

And again, he's one of the most powerful psykers ever. Even if they had tried to blast his shuttle or stand in his way, he's more than capable of defending himself.


Most of all why the hell did they accept his heir to the throne of a position which holds way more power than they should logically allow given their paranoia of taint? If anything that should have damned Gabriel Litius and he should have been exiled via airlock.

I feel you should have picked it up by now, but what the hell. The Silent Lions have a huge respect for Vis and an almost religious trust in Romero. If he named this psyker as his successor, then they would follow him to the end of the Earth.

Not trying to smash you down here Romero. But these are some glaring issues that need clarity if the fluff of your chapter is to make more sense.
Seriously. All the 'glaring issues' you have pointed out are not glaring issues. They are in fact a few things that I explained clearly later on. All you had to do was read.



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