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Default 3000 Point - High Elves - 'ard Boyz Round 2

This is the list that I used during the first round of 'ard Boyz. I'm trying to figure out what changes and improvements should be made for Round 2.

Prince
-Armour of Caledor, Talisman of Preservation, Great Weapon

Teclis (Lore of Shadow)

Noble
-BSB, Dragon Armour, Enchanted Shield, Guardian Pheonix, Sword of Might

Mage
-Level 2, Silver Wand (Lore of High Magic)

Lothern Sea Guard (23)
-Full Command
Lothern Sea Guard (23)
-Full Command

Archers (10)

Pheonix Guard (23)
-Full Command, Banner of Sorcery

Sword Masters of Hoeth (23)
-Full Command, War Banner

Reaper Bolt Thrower (4)

Teclis and the Mage each go in a unit of Sea Guard, Prince in the Sword Masters, and Noble in the Pheonix Guard.

The army performed pretty well overall, netting me fourth place, and a trip to Round 2 thanks to the guy in third not being in town. My main thoughts are changing my Mage to have Lore of Beasts instead of High Magic. I'm also thinking of changing the Sea Guard to regular Spearmen and perhaps adding more archers. Still not sure.

So... Thoughts and comments?
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I'm not sure that the Swordmasters benefit that much from Massed Ranks - and the War Banner has lost it's lustre in breaking units.

Swordmasters have 2 S5 attacks - when you use supporting attacks, you can only benefit from a maximum of 1. They used to excel at tanking massed units - but I think that PG with the Razor Standard, supported by the Prince and BSB will be able to smash through most things coming towards it - ASF S4 AP attacks can take on most heavy infantry. Alternatively, if they're for heavy armour, then WL with Razor Standard are pretty much peerless in the list.

Don't really see why you'd go with dropping sea guard for Spears and Archers.



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I'm curious why you'd go for Lore of Beasts for your Level 2 instead of High Magic. I mean, Teclis is going to be doing plenty of buffs/offensive magic, so it seems to me that the Lvl 2 would be better against all-comers providing the Magic Defense that High Magic grants.

And I know that Vaz disagrees, but I would go with your idea to drop the Seaguard and go with a roughly equal number Spearmen and more Archers. Seaguard are just too expensive to throw into combat, and once they're in HTH, you've lost their ability to thin out remaining enemy ranks. With Archers, you don't even have to think twice- you can just flee, rally, and shoot again later.

Four RBT's is sick for turns one and maybe two, and should help you out against Hydra list DE's and Dragons, but realize you are going to lose those 400 points every game from either cannons, Gutter Runners, Pegasus Knights, or Chamelon Skinks, depending on who you're playing. I don't see anything in your list able to respond to Vanguard troops or infiltrators.

Just a few thougts. It's nice to see a HE 'Ard Boyz list. Good luck.
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Wysans Wildform is enough for this list. I regularly wildform my Eternal Guard - combined with Throne of Vines Flesh to Stone, it works really well.

But yeah, Wildforming and the Withering combine to do fantastically.



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