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And yet, I'll continue to state how badly it has been written.

I don't mind the evolution of the game, it will take some time to get used to the nuances, but from a game whose background for around 15 years I have loved about the brinksmanship to read it all being completely dissolved, it is just so bad I don't have words for it.

After the Storm of Chaos, people were, and are still pissed off at how mediocre that turned out. The biggest bad ass in Fantasy laid low by a headbutt from an Orc, an Orc for crying out loud then walking away from a fight, before Sigmar reborn gets stabbed while recovering from his injuries, the Nuclear bomb was a dud...

Then it was rolled back and cometely ignored.

Then comes The End Times. And the most ridiculous half assed plot lines that basically says lets kill everyone. Actually, fuck that, lets just erase the world. Imagine in 40k if all of the characters you've grown to love and hate were killed. Not in the sensible fashion of the Nids coming or the Crons awakening or the Orks getting out of hand, but simply removed thanks to some ridiculous nonsensical rubbish. Oh, and 3 of the factions get removed from the background and not really spoken about; lizardmen were an afterthought, an 'oops, we forgot about them', Ogres and Bretonnians similarly hard done to.

People are still bemoaning the squats and chaos dwarfs effectively going the way of the dodo.

It could have been handled so much better.



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And yet, I'll continue to state how badly it has been written.

I don't mind the evolution of the game, it will take some time to get used to the nuances, but from a game whose background for around 15 years I have loved about the brinksmanship to read it all being completely dissolved, it is just so bad I don't have words for it.

After the Storm of Chaos, people were, and are still pissed off at how mediocre that turned out. The biggest bad ass in Fantasy laid low by a headbutt from an Orc, an Orc for crying out loud then walking away from a fight, before Sigmar reborn gets stabbed while recovering from his injuries, the Nuclear bomb was a dud...

Then it was rolled back and cometely ignored.

Then comes The End Times. And the most ridiculous half assed plot lines that basically says lets kill everyone. Actually, fuck that, lets just erase the world. Imagine in 40k if all of the characters you've grown to love and hate were killed. Not in the sensible fashion of the Nids coming or the Crons awakening or the Orks getting out of hand, but simply removed thanks to some ridiculous nonsensical rubbish. Oh, and 3 of the factions get removed from the background and not really spoken about; lizardmen were an afterthought, an 'oops, we forgot about them', Ogres and Bretonnians similarly hard done to.

People are still bemoaning the squats and chaos dwarfs effectively going the way of the dodo.

It could have been handled so much better.

We get it already. We.get.it.
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And your point is?



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From this write up I gotta agree with Vaz. I got into fantasy during hero hammer, hated it, got back into it when things were a bit more even, loved it, and now this? If this was my first look in I'd never want to come back.

It looks like things most definitely could have been handled much, much better.

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And your point is?

My point is your point didn't need three different posts. Say what you feel in a way that doesn't come off as toxic, pleeeeaaaasssee. I don't insist you like one thing or hate another though.

But anyway,

Personally I wish this series had a lot less death, especially Belegor, a guy that was JUST INTRODUCED! (Which makes me wonder if much of the Warhammer world i
Will get rebuilt, and the conflict will stem from chaos trying to thwart its reconstruction.)

I mainly like it for the additive qualities. I could do without beloved characters getting totally obliterated, but i like the stuff that was added, new units, new special characters. I personally wish they didn't annihilate the world, but left it intact but in flux, and just wrote 9th Ed based off that.
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My point is your point didn't need three different posts. Say what you feel in a way that doesn't come off as toxic, pleeeeaaaasssee. I don't insist you like one thing or hate another though.

But anyway,

Personally I wish this series had a lot less death, especially Belegor, a guy that was JUST INTRODUCED! (Which makes me wonder if much of the Warhammer world i
Will get rebuilt, and the conflict will stem from chaos trying to thwart its reconstruction.)

I mainly like it for the additive qualities. I could do without beloved characters getting totally obliterated, but i like the stuff that was added, new units, new special characters. I personally wish they didn't annihilate the world, but left it intact but in flux, and just wrote 9th Ed based off that.
Sorry but his latest post was pretty constructive. Agree with quite a bit of it.
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Sorry but his latest post was pretty constructive. Agree with quite a bit of it.

Uh, i am not questioning his latest post in a vacuum, there are two prior to it that weren't constructive.

ANYWAY.
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Uh, i am not questioning his latest post in a vacuum, there are two prior to it that weren't constructive.

ANYWAY.
And yet, his last one is the one you quoted.
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And yet, his last one is the one you quoted.

Let's move on, shall we?
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Now the question is what comes next?

The interesting thing here is that following the success of the heresy 30k setting, GW is likely aware they can create new content for discrete sections of the world and it can work for the setting.

In other words 30k is already "over" but within the timeline GW can write new content.

They could conceivably continue to mine the old setting even as they make a new setting.

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