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View Poll Results: What original SM chapter deserves its own codex?
Imperial Fists 19 27.14%
Iron Hands 18 25.71%
Raven Guard 8 11.43%
Salamanders 19 27.14%
White Scars 6 8.57%
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What Space Marine chapter deserves their own codex?
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Do you mean beyond the ones that already do or are you questioning the necessity of the current ones?

In my opinion in the past Marines always had their stand out chapters which had a bit more character to them than the standard vanilla marines. SW, BA and DA specifically. So I would argue in the past that due to their more individual heritage/fluff etc they warrant their own dex

However, with the introduction of characters like He'stan, Khan and Kantor in the Vanilla dex who change the base rules of the army to work more like their specific chapter I'm not so convinced.

I'm now of the opinion of why should a chapter like the Salamanders with as much richness and depth of fluff as BA be restricted to the addition of one IC to your army in order to play them, they should be on equal footing with BA, SW and DA, which is difficult as then we start going down the road of a million SM dexes which would be ridiculous. I would advocate bumping all of the chapters down to the IC changes the way the army plays sort of style but it's not like we can just scrap all the current dexes out there.
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Angry Marines.

Seriously though, I'm not sure what chapter has a divergent enough composition or enough unusual units to make it worthwhile. Possibly Raven Guard or Carcharadons...
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Those are good points, but unfortunately are not within the scope of this poll. DENIED.

My vote is for Iron Hands, because they bring the most uniqueness to the game. If any chapter should have unique army list choices, it would be them.
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I never liked the idea of a million SM books. Chaos has two, but you could easily do six. The "unique" non-vanilla SM books all differ by two units and a few wargear options at the most, so why not condense everything into a Superbook with a lot of HQ options, multiple deployment lists etc?

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Those are good points, but unfortunately are not within the scope of this poll. DENIED.

My vote is for Iron Hands, because they bring the most uniqueness to the game. If any chapter should have unique army list choices, it would be them.
My bad I actually replied to this before it was a poll. Or failed to notice the poll at all haha, I'll go vote by smashing my face on my mouse now.
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On-topic: If there must be a new dex, I'd most rather have the Imperial Fists. Defense and siege specialists, plenty of unique tactical and strategic fluff there.

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Yeah, this is basically disregarding the marketing and business aspects of the hobby. I'd like to see more codices strictly for the game options and codefied fluff. The 4th edition space marines codex went a long way with the chapter traits. I'm not sure why they got rid of those. They were great.
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Out of those? None really, they are not unique enough in my opinion. I mean, they are no Blood Angels or Space Wolves really.

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Oops, didn't see the poll

However, now I see it, I'm gonna say Iron Hands. I'm embarrassed to say I'd completely forgotten about them. How bad is that? A first founding chapter with amazing potential that has literally not been fleshed out (pun intended) to the point where they're practically forgotten.

Iron Father HQ's, disdain for mortal flesh, reliance on bionics, close links to AdMech, reverance for the machine, and iirc, Terminator armoured sergeants?

Plenty of scope for a stand alone codex. Hell, they don't even have a character in the SM codex!
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