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My main is Chaos Marines and I'm working on my new Dark Eldar. I was even tempted by the new necrons. You could say I go for villain factions.

Maybe because I like underdogs, and in modern storytelling, starting as a beleaguered good guy with a dead sister/dad/girlfriend is the surest path to victory. But I also like the drama of evil. Morgoth sitting on his throne while the elven High King pounds the doors to his fortress, thinking of his first betrayal aeons before. Mog-Pharau threading the world in the First Apocalypse, his presence so fell that no child was born alive in the 11 years he lived, trying to sever the world from the afterlife to avoid judgement.

People damned as much for their virtues as for their vices.

That said, My next faction might be Grey Knights, for contrast. Also, low model count means less $$$. On the other hand, they -could- be construed as villains...
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I've always found villians to be more complex and compelling characters in fiction. I think it's the fact that the villian has a motivation that inspires him to preform an act, whereas the hero is always just messing up the villians stuff. A hero without a villian is nothing but a villian without a hero is a dude just doing his thing. I find it easier to sympathise with someone with a plan, with motivation and an end result; than with the guy who's end goal is for everything to go back to the way it was.

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Because if I had to choose between the good guys, aka "Dicks" or the bad guys, aka "I'm full blown evil and I love it! MUHAHAHA", I'll pick that cheese sandwich any day.
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Do you enjoy playing the "bad guys"?

who are we defining as the "bad guys"? because all truths are simply different viewpoints.

If so what attracted you to "the darkside" and why?
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In almost all table top games I've played the bad guys, often later I'll pick up good guys, but I always start with the baddies.

In many of those games the villainous forces had more aesthetically interesting miniatures, that were more challenging to paint.

Warhammer 40k: Chaos Marines
Warhammer Fantasy: Chaos (now chaos warriors)
Warzone: Dark Legion (evil) and Capitol (good)
Necromunda: Scavvies
Chronopia: Devout (evil) and Firstborn (good)

It always seems like more fun in these settings to go out and make a mess of things, instead of cleaning the messes up.

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It allows me to keep being a nice guy in real life while allowing my

I FUCKING WANT TO KILL YOU ALL YOU SHITBRAINED CUNTZ

side to vent occasionally. Everybody needs to kill something now and then, even if it`s only little plastic soldiers or pixels on a screen.


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Define "bad guys"

Do you take the religious route? where "Bad guys" encompass the Vices, where "good guys" encompass Virtues?

Do you take it to a Lawful state, where the good guys follow the law, and the bad guys break it?

you should really define "bad guy" before asking a question like this

I play the evil side because they generally have a better offset and appearance.

Spikes + Dark armor + glowing evil eyes = cool.

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Wait.
You mean we're the bad guys?

I had a distinct Mitchell and Webb moment.

Hey! Where'd ... Everybody ... go?
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From the previous Codex: Chaos Space Marines:

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There is something darkly fascinating about villains. Not the run-of-the-mill petty villains, but the big villains, the ones that plot universal domination and have the ability to see it through. These villains are just as resourceful, just as determined, and just as capable as any hero, but they also have faults and weaknesses that make them far more interesting. This is, I believe, [their] attraction... There is a certain tragedy about them, but also a grim, uncompromising ferocity that drives them on.
They're interesting from a story perspective, which is something I like to have in all my armies. You have to think hard about their motivations, what drives them, what makes them think what they're doing is right. It's a challenge that doesn't often come up with the more "virtuous" factions. I use the term loosely because, well, this IS 40K. But it's one of the reasons I like the Inquisition. It's made of so many different philosophies and paradigms, each one so convinced that they know what's right for mankind. It's why I find them so much more interesting and fun than the incorruptable daemon-fighting supersoldiers who take up most of the army list.
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I usually play the good guys, but I'm starting to enjoy the dark side of the universe.

I recently started playing WoC in fantasy, DEldar in 40k, and I'm planning on starting a Chaos Dwarf army/supplement to my WoC force.

But when I make bad guys, their intentions aren't "evil" per se (e.g., dominating everything, killing everyone, raping, destroying, etc), but stuff like wanting to add some randomness to the mix (my WoCs are Tzeenchian) or destroying those who have wronged them in a bloody and violent fashion (my Dwarfs).



My only really evil army is my DEldar.

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