Good link, thanks. Its a great reference point to my questions.. But its more of a recap of fluff relating to the ”fall of caliban”.
Im sorry that I thought this thread was about dark angels related stuff. I missed the part where we only say if we like em or not and how many toys we have.
True that. I misread your post a bit.
In my world it is very hard to make a stand.
In the beginning we had the first loyalist legion. When the Fallen took a stand, they became something else. Most probably under the influence of chaos. In my eyes they became something like unhappy separatists.
The remaining loyalists turned into something else as well. They are still true to the Emperor, but their motives are clouded. They leave their fellow imperial troops in trouble, just to set out on a hunt for the Fallen. There are even indications of them destroying a Black Templar ship.
So I really can't say who I see as the good guys.
The motives of the Fallen, Caliban born Dark Angels, were pretty just I think. They would have been much better left on their own. But still, seen from an imperial point of view, Caliban was a human world, belonging to the world of the Emperor.
And since the Fallen took a stand against the Lion and the Imperium, the Loyalists were right in their actions, when it came to destroying the Fallen. But what they became afterwards is a question of doubt. Much like Astellan points out they are far from what they once were.
And I play Dark Angels, but I have a hard time liking their ways. I really do like the miniatures, the colour scheme, the whole "tri-wing" thing. But in truth, I'd like a more noble, honourable and glorious chapter.
I hope this was a little bit more of what you were asking for