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They are designed to carry the Emporers finest into battle, yet a planetery PDF would get a better armed and armoured transport. They aren't fast, and carry less troops. Cheap and cheerful, OK, but crap.
My question is; Should Space Marines get the option of a better transport?
What should it be?

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i think rhinos are awesome. but i would prefer a different transport maybe more armored, 1 hatch to get out of.

1 speeder transport ect ect
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Personally, I don't think they should get another transport (and I do play them). It is one of few weaknesses present in the marine list. Even then, a rhino for 35 points basic; hell, you would pay more for a skoda to transport your marines in. Mobile coffin or not, it is great value. They already have one of the best non dedicated transport in the game (landraider) and you can't get much tougher than that. An intermdiate option would be nice (if you play them) but would make them way too hard to beat.

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You have to see things as being relative.

Rhinos arn't crap. Not logically anyways... in play.. .sure.. .but in logic, no.

Marines are BIG. Its why some people do Truescale conversions. So when you consider that a rhino can hold 10 of these supermen with all their gear.. thats ALOT of space.

Also have to consider that weaponry seems to have kept up with the ages better then armor has. So while the rhino is a tough little tank... all those weapons on the battlefield are tougher.

Currently I don't field any rhinos... cause I play a shooty marine army.. and just don't find them that useful... so I know what you mean.
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fluff wise they should all be in land raiders why would you put your best most expensive troops in something cheep.

for cheep bulk transport give tot he guard.


game wise they are fine.
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Yeah, I'm sure I started this in 40K fluff. Surely I'm not that stupid? (don't answer that) I will blame that on the computer (can't stick up for itself)
Thats why this is in fluff, they work OK in game terms, and marines don't need anything more powerful in a game. But come on . These are the Elite of the Imperium, the creme de la creme, and they ride around in a cardboard box on tracks. Why wouldn't the Imperium update and improve the Rhino. The Mechanicus do it with Leman Russ variants.

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money? power? who knows, ever since the Emperor was attatched to the golden throne the imperium has been ruled by power hungry and greedy people, who would do anything for an extra buck or 2. Granted I dont know if its the same case with mars, but at this point in time it wouldnt be difficult to influence a few people. that and they have lost a lot of STC templates and so cant really make anything better. and itd be way too expensive to make land raiders en masse.
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Why?
They are designed to carry the Emporers finest into battle, yet a planetery PDF would get a better armed and armoured transport. They aren't fast, and carry less troops. Cheap and cheerful, OK, but crap.
My question is; Should Space Marines get the option of a better transport?
What should it be?
Yah man, if only Space Marines had some sort of transport that could carry them safely to any part of the board without fear of being shot prior to arriving and didn't have to worry about being randomly destroyed by enroaching on enemy territory and was so cool if could even carry vehicles... wouldn't that be sweet...

Pondering...
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its more about tradition i think the marines haven't changed much since the emporers times so why would they have different vehicles whereas the guard are not as strict what the munitorium give they get so although the stcs dont change some level of innovation can be expected to deal with different situations to aid survival marines don't need innovation how they react to different situations is laid out in codex astartes and determined by roboute gulliman. added to this the fact that marines are super human and have exeptional armour in the fluff able to withstand most weaponry why would they need the extra armour on their self repairing tanks
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