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Would the game be fun if everything was easy to play?

Also I run a Nidzilla list guess what people are complaining its too cheesy.


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Would the game be fun if everything was easy to play?

Also I run a Nidzilla list guess what people are complaining its too cheesy.
Can you send me your list? I would like to see what your taking to be consider cheesy.

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Yes ignore me, I apparently know nothing about my army, even though half the people bringing me down don't play tyranids, and know "friends" that win, that's not exactly good proof that what I'm saying isn't true. They in fact very hard to play and not very competitive.
I agree with you that they are a hard army to play, and they are less powerful than say Wolves or Guard, but they can still be competitive when played with good tactics.

I admit that my post probably was a little harsh, and i do apologise, but i am sure that you can see where i am coming from.

And for the record, i played Nids ever since 3rd ed, and only just went away from them over the last 6 months or so, so i have a fairly decent concept of their tactics (won over half my games with them).


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The list isn't cheesy it's how I play it.

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Swarmlord
Elites
Hive guard
Troops
Tervigon
-Catalyst
10 Termagants
Heavy support
Trygon
-Adrenal glands
Trygon
-Adrenal Glands

for 1000 points.


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The list isn't cheesy it's how I play it.

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Swarmlord
Elites
Hive guard
Troops
Tervigon
-Catalyst
10 Termagants
Heavy support
Trygon
-Adrenal glands
Trygon
-Adrenal Glands

for 1000 points.
Do you deep strike your trygons?

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Yes Behind my enemy to divert fire onto them while everything else advances.

But Im thinking of running this

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-Catayst
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Venomthrope
Troops
20 Hormagaunts
-Toxin sacs
20 Hormagaunts
-Toxin sacs
Heavy support
Carnifex
Carnifex
Carnifex

Its way worse but it will be much more fun.


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Tyranids are the worst of the 5th codexes. With that said, they're still a solid codex. On a scale of 1-10, they're a 7. There are a few builds where you've got some serious work cut out for you, but in a TAC setting, Tyranids aren't too bad off. I've only ever run into one list where I felt I had no chance to win (Venomspam go!) and a handful where I knew I needed some serious luck (SM Bikes, Parking lot).

I don't feel Tyranids were nerfed in the 4-5th codex update, it was more of a lateral change. We gained and we lost. Honestly I think the FAQ did more damage than the codex change.
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Yes ignore me, I apparently know nothing about my army, even though half the people bringing me down don't play tyranids, and know "friends" that win, that's not exactly good proof that what I'm saying isn't true. They in fact very hard to play and not very competitive.
And where is the proof that it isn't you just sucking at the game if I might ask?
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And where is the proof that it isn't you just sucking at the game if I might ask?
NewGuy55 is correct to an extent.
They are a difficult army to play, and have a much smaller margin for error compared to something like Marines.
It is possible that he does have trouble playing the army sometimes, but that doesn't necessarily mean that he is a bad player. He could play Marine armies quite well.
To win consistently with Tyranids, you need to know the army very well, and think multiple turns ahead and constantly re-evaluate your strategy.
They are still competitive, they just require the extra effort to make them work.



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Go cheese his words are Gouda.


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