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Carrying on from my fantasy thread...

Which units in your Codex are so woeful, pointless, and downright useless, that no general in their right mind should ever consider taking them? Are they something in your own army you've never seen the point of, or a unit in someone elses that you destroy laughably easily?

What units should never be used?
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Tyranid Pyrovore. Easily the worst creature in the codex. It's way overpriced, doesn't have a good statline, and isn't even very good at doing what it's intended to do, which is fire its one flame weapon then get shot and explode. Worse, it takes up an Elite slot, which are precious to Nids because it's where nearly all of our anti-tank is located.

I nominate it for worst unit in any 5th edition codex.
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I would say legion of of the damned, it's not that they are bad troops but they are just way way too expensive.

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The casual player like me will say there are no units that should never be chosen because the hole game is about fun more than anything else.

Although if being picky I would nominate:

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Every FA choice in Codex Eldar
Support Weapon Batteries
Sniper Drones
Vespid
Kroot
Ethereals and in particular the Space Pope
Lone Wolves
Death Company with Bolters
Guardians
Every FA choice in Codex Chaos Space Marines
Flash Gitz (Not bad but too unreliable and eat precious heavy support slots)
Phoenix Lords
C'tan
Pariahs
GK Purgation Squads
Any Artillary choice cause they are too damn fragile!

Sure the list could go on but I have ran out of I can be bothered power.


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I've never encountered a useless unit.
I have encountered useless players who can't use their units effectively, however.

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Carrying on from my fantasy thread...

Which units in your Codex are so woeful, pointless, and downright useless, that no general in their right mind should ever consider taking them? Are they something in your own army you've never seen the point of, or a unit in someone elses that you destroy laughably easily?

What units should never be used?
None. There are NEVER pointless or useless units in any context. For example the Pyrovore from the Tyranid codex. Yes with so many other great Elite it will almost never get used but what about Planet Strike or Apocalypse. They are not that bad. Deep striking pyrovores are good and you now have an extra elite slot to fit them in. The Apocalypse games are so tank heavy that people are thrown completely of with infantry based armies so the Pyrovores do a great job at getting rid of them. And all of that is that the Pyrovore is a great modal and i prefer it to alot of the other Nid modals such as the Biovore. It it wasn't for Base size i would use them as Biovores instead of that actual modals.

Same sort of thing goes for every other codex. Swooping Hawks - I have a 10 man strong unit with Autarch and Pheionix lord, Chaos Spawn - I spawn the things all the time in my Tzeentch army, Devastatiors - I want 2 units for my Imperial Fists (currently at 1) And Death Company Dreadnoughts - They are great to see your opponents reaction as they continuously can't stop the thing mulling them.
Bottom line there is no such thing as "worst unit/model" only that some are better at certain more common place jobs or are better all rounders.

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Bollocks. Swooping Hawks are bollocks.

One of the worst units in ANY Edition of the game, this incarnation.

Shining Spears are also pathetic. Rough Riders. Ogyrns. Whirlwinds. Thunderfire Cannons. Nork Deddog. Blood Angels Captains. Dark Angels entire Codex. Chaos Spawn. Most Grey Knights. Thousand Sons. Possessed. Baharroth.

I could go on.
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Sisters Repentia
Every FA choice in Codex EldarNot every. Spiders are good i find
Support Weapon Batteries
Sniper Drones
Vespid
Kroot Have you seen Kroot armys at work?
Ethereals and in particular the Space Pope
Lone Wolves
Death Company with Bolters
GuardiansHow dare you insult Guardians. They pown most armys with long ranged support and objective holding.
Every FA choice in Codex Chaos Space Marines
Flash Gitz (Not bad but too unreliable and eat precious heavy support slots)
Phoenix LordsYou really hate Eldar in general don't you? Manga Ra is awsume and some of the other are good agianst other armys (that and the Jain Zar on the chagre has the highest I in the game at 11 even going before the Keeper of Secrets)
C'tanSome one forgot that there are 2 and the Nightbringers little borther is bad ass
PariahsAgian. Have you seen them used in numbers?
GK Purgation Squads Saw just 1 unit take of 3 wounds from that big ass Nurlge Daemon in a Apocalypse game.
Any Artillary choice cause they are too damn fragile!
Just my opions to some in red

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Bollocks. Swooping Hawks are bollocks.

One of the worst units in ANY Edition of the game, this incarnation.

Shining Spears are also pathetic. Rough Riders. Ogyrns. Whirlwinds. Thunderfire Cannons. Nork Deddog. Blood Angels Captains. Dark Angels entire Codex. Chaos Spawn. Most Grey Knights. Thousand Sons. Possessed. Baharroth.

I could go on.

I shoot you with my whirlwind

I should change my name to Number 1. Not because I am conceited but because thats what I always roll at inopportune moments.

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Space Marine Vanguard with Jump Packs, they're far to expensive for what they do.
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