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were we talking about the aesthetics of those models or am i wrong? No one said that he was pissed about the models because GW used many AoS rules in 40k
Did the context shift all of a sudden? I'm saying one of the main complaints I've noticed is similarities in aesthetics between the designs of 40k range models and AoS range models.


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Me - well, that doesn't help my Night Lords does it? General release for all Imperial Armies vs Faction Specific release is not the same.
If you think a new faction/Sorta!Space Marine release is an general all Imperial Armies one, then yes, yes it is.

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The aesthetics is not the issue. It's the fact that there are similarities between systems that people seem to have a problem with.
ooh i see now. my bad. i tought you meant "systems" as "rules systems".
Anyway yes, i generally despise AoS aestethics so i cannot be happy about the porting of that sculpts into Wh40k. It's not the concept of porting per se...it's just that i don't like (some of) AoS sculpts.

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ooh i see now. my bad. i tought you meant "systems" as "rules systems".
Anyway yes, i generally despise AoS aestethics so i cannot be happy about the porting of that sculpts into Wh40k. It's not the concept of porting per se...it's just that i don't like (some of) AoS sculpts.
It's funny, because the first complaints I heard used terms like "Sigmarines" to refer to the AoS models looking like something out of 40k. And now the complaints are reversed. Not sure if it's all the same people but from a general view it really does look like parts of the wargaming community just need a reason to complain and won't be happy unless they do.


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If you think a new faction/Sorta!Space Marine release is an general all Imperial Armies one, then yes, yes it is.



I honestly can't remember the last time I fought an army that wasn't marines...therefore all space marines=all imperial armies.


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It's funny, because the first complaints I heard used terms like "Sigmarines" to refer to the AoS models looking like something out of 40k. And now the complaints are reversed. Not sure if it's all the same people but from a general view it really does look like parts of the wargaming community just need a reason to complain and won't be happy unless they do.
thats the same problem: its a complaint about the sharing of layouts between diffrent games/universes.
Sigmarines were fantasy knights so similar to space marines it was ridiculous. And now we have wh40k warriors that looks like fantasy knights. This is a blending of styles that i didn't want to see. Blending styles means that dozens of models will just look the same accross differnt games and gaming universes. Its a "vanillification" of models aestethics. So, i don't see it as a strange complaint...it's the same, but mirrored. It's the globalization of modeling: where all models looks the same, be it sigmarines or GuilliStormCast/NurgleCast.
But, hey, thats me. If you like it, good for you. I'm not breaking into anyone's hose swapping their models with oop '90s metal space marines. (altough that would be hilarious)

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These marines are quite different aesthetically... but 2 basically only change is the wounds; theyre still same S/T etc pretty much, and the way wounds get allocated i dont think these guys will be that much more survivable.

a unit of 10 poxwalkers charged my 3 new flyboys, 2 died, but they pretty much wiped out the poxwalkers.
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thats the same problem: its a complaint about the sharing of layouts between diffrent games/universes.
Sigmarines were fantasy knights so similar to space marines it was ridiculous. And now we have wh40k warriors that looks like fantasy knights. This is a blending of styles that i didn't want to see. Blending styles means that dozens of models will just look the same accross differnt games and gaming universes. Its a "vanillification" of models aestethics. So, i don't see it as a strange complaint...it's the same, but mirrored. It's the globalization of modeling: where all models looks the same, be it sigmarines or GuilliStormCast/NurgleCast.
But, hey, thats me. If you like it, good for you. I'm not breaking into anyone's hose swapping their models with oop '90s metal space marines. (altough that would be hilarious)

Of course, if you hate it, you hate it, and that's OK.
But you complain about them looking too much like fantasy knights. Have you seen the Horus Heresy? You surely understand what I am saying, right?

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I'd like to see some fluff on the primaris dreadnoughts, as this crowd are brand new, surely the first dreadnought pilots were volunteers, a dubious honour

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It's actually looking likely that the starting point of 8th is a few/couple hundred years after M42 kicks off, with the Crusade coming from Terra and reaching (at least) Ultramar and Baal, presumably capturing and fortifying at least some things in between so as not to monumentally screw up the logistics of the whole thing.

So plenty of time for Primaris Marines - who were UNTESTED ROOKIES - to get themselves horribly maimed.

Hell, 'Ancient' may even have a less ironic meaning than 'Newly Escaped Mars' by now

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