And ye shall know him by his army - Wargaming Forum and Wargamer Forums
General 40k This is the place to talk about everything related to Warhammer 40k.

LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 01-13-16, 07:22 PM Thread Starter
MidnightSun's Avatar
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: New Sheoth
Posts: 6,741
Reputation: 83
Default And ye shall know him by his army

Have you ever found that there's a trend amongst players of any given army? It's crazy, and it tends to be a tiny percentage who just happen to end up colouring the whole group, but I've frequently noticed trends amongst the playerbases of each faction.

(Note: If your army gets a less than stellar overview - which anyone who's ever read anything I've written before knows is inevitable - I don't mean it's about you yourself. It's a fairly tongue in cheek article, for your delight and delectation and not to be taken seriously. It's a piece of fun I wrote because sometimes I like to write huge battleships of text, but I'm not in the mood for a tactica).

Blood Angels players have steadily gotten closer and closer to falling to the Black Rage every edition; in 5th, there were lots of them who were pretty chill (lots of fluff gamers; in fact, mostly fluff gamers other than the people playing their Space Marines as BA because of the 'better' Codex), but in 7th are very much in the running with CSM players for the 'Saltiest fans' crown (given the gradually deteriorating love from GW culminating in the 7th ed BA book, I don't really blame them...)

Dark Angels have been through phases. In 5th, they were 'players who really like Terminators', because that was all their Codex had going for them (even the hardcoriest of hardcore fluff gamers seemed to just run Codex: Space Marines and ally in Deathwing because that was a thing you could do). 6th saw a few of the really dedicated fluff players move back to playing with them, and the odd Banner of Devastation army zooming in to collapse a table under the weight of their dakka dice before zooming off again, but generally speaking the few who played the faction were nice guys, cheerfully optimistic about the few fancy tricks the army could do although occasionally annoying when they argued that their Codex was the greatest thing evar. With their 7th ed Codex they've returned to what some might say is their rightful place as pretty much Marines for people with a plasma and Terminator fetish. As such, it's hard to make an overall judgement; the Marine fanbase is ubiquitous and all-encompassing.

Grey Knights players used to be horrendous in 5th, when they swaggered around convinced that their army was the greatest thing since sliced bread and that even unpacking it from the case would cause all lesser armies to physically fly from the table in shameful defeat. Come their 7th edition Codex, they became a whole lot more agreeable; generally, you play silver Space Marines because you can't get off without back-to-backing The Exorcist and Constantine as foreplay, rather than because you picked the army the internet thought broke the game.

The Space Wolf player is, thematically enough, rabidly loyal to his army and won't hear a word spoken against the army, the models, Leman Russ or any scene in any Black Library book that contains the Space Wolves. Other than this minor quirk, I've been unable to establish a consistent trend. Some Wolves are bro-tier, some are total assholes.

Regular Marine players are infinite and eternal. They are the homogenous grey blob. You'll find a Space Marines player for every different archetype you can think of, and some you can't.

Imperial Guard players, in my somewhat limited experience of them, don't tend to know the first thing about the game. Maybe that's why Guard don't place in tournaments. It's an odd quirk of the universe that of the players I've met, it's almost always the Guard player who doesn't know the basic rules of the game. Of all my oh-so-sweeping generalisations, this is probably the one warped to the greatest extent by my own experiences.

Literally never met a Chaos Daemons player.

The Chaos Space Marine player is feared across he community, for the power of his salted rage is mighty. There are a couple of particularly noticeable archetypes; the guys who are in it because ten thousand year old traitors performing daemonic rituals are awesome (note: these players are also awesome), the Great Salty Ones who cock up every thread with a 'Chaos Space Marines are bad' derailment, and the Iron Warriors players who totally, definitely play Iron Warriors because they're cool and, er, Perturabo was like an interesting and developed character, NOT because Iron Warriors were the OP secret sauce of the Holy Tome of 3.5ed. Definitely not. They do keep a silver basilisk under their pillow for some reason though.

Dark Eldar are played purely by nice guys who lull you into a false sense of security, working off of the presumption the internet's given everyone that Dark Eldar are somehow bad, and then deliver viciously brutal beatdowns on you just when you'd decided what you were going to do with your tournament winnings. And they still manage to be nice guys about it all.

Eldar have always been played by guys who think they're God's own gift to 40k. Granted, they do know the rules like the backs of their slender, pale hands, but man do they let you know it. Amusingly, lots of them also suck (exacerbated in 7th ed by many bandwagon Eldar using a strong Codex and auto-take units to make up for their failings as players). Back in 5th edition they would Movement Phase the hell out of you and could instantly recall any given result on the vehicle damage chart. All the big fish on 40k I know are Eldar players - it's a big thing for an Imperial player to have a Warhound, but Eldar players with 30000pts of stuff including three Revenants and a Phantom seem to be a dime a dozen. Lots of them also played Fantasy and/or other game systems.

I only know one Necron player, and he's just a really nice guy struggling with a dull-as-mud Codex that facerolls everybody which makes everyone hate playing him.

Orks are the marmite of 40k players. There are some who are spectacularly creative, challenging opponents, and all-round great guys. There are an equal amount of boorish, loud-mouthed gorillas that think making gun and engine noises and yelling incoherently is acceptable in a public environment. The former are awesome. The latter are not. Kinda like Guard in that they tend not to be played by 40k experts, but not to the same degree.

Tau are almost universally played by teenagers who like anime, but about 1% of them use the Tau codex to it's internet horror story extent so are actually thoroughly agreeable gamers.

Tyranids are generally a far more agreeable bunch of people than Blood Angels and Chaos Space Marines players, being resigned to having shit-awful rules until the end of time and making the most of it. Never seen an 'okay' Tyranid army - they're either laughably terrible or absolute works of art, but seldom in the middle.

Creator of Utilitarian Ultramarines Memes - join the XIII on Facebook (no XVII allowed).
MidnightSun is offline  
Sponsored Links
post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old 01-13-16, 07:51 PM
Junior Member
Stonetwig's Flag is: USA
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 14
Reputation: 2

Weird analysis, but I like it. I play Dark Eldar and Chaos Space Marines, so my opponents fear my super nice salty rage!!! Or something like that... :D
Stonetwig is offline  
post #3 of 8 (permalink) Old 01-13-16, 08:04 PM
Haskanael's Avatar
Haskanael's Flag is: Netherlands
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 2,438
Reputation: 20

not bad, quite spot on for guard players, I have the worst time making sure the rules stick in my head.
Haskanael is offline  
post #4 of 8 (permalink) Old 01-13-16, 08:25 PM
Senior Member
DelvarusThePitFighter's Avatar
DelvarusThePitFighter's Flag is: United Kingdom
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: UK
Posts: 278
Reputation: 9

I've have played all the factions and have been for nearly 7 years now. And even now I'm not a 'big fish' - agree on Eldar players - seem to nearly always be several kilometers up their own ass on the subject of their army. My friend plays guard and is pretty religious with the rules and I have only beaten him in 1v1's a few times (less than 10) while he must've beaten me hundreds....
DelvarusThePitFighter is offline  
post #5 of 8 (permalink) Old 01-13-16, 09:05 PM
Battman's Avatar
Battman's Flag is: Australia
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Victoria, Australia
Posts: 1,285
Reputation: 14

Very interesting. Very interesting indeed. Just quickly browsing through i certtainly can recognized so of these tropes played out in other players particularly the Imerial gaurd one.

Though i think I'm different personally more like a gaurd player in the way i try to play my orks, methodical relaxed and calculated but i supose thats just me.

Da Golden Waaagh!

Originally Posted by Fiddlestix View Post
Dakka dakka dakka dakka dakka dakka dakka dakka BATORK!!!
Battman is offline  
post #6 of 8 (permalink) Old 01-13-16, 10:04 PM
Critique for da CriticGod
Kreuger's Avatar
Kreuger's Flag is: USA
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Philadelphia, PA USA
Posts: 3,350
Reputation: 43

I've had a few armies over the years but the only ones which stuck were Chaos.

And while I thought the 3.5 codex was awesome I didn't play it with Iron Warriors.

I had a mix of daemons (bloodletters & plague bearers) Chaos marines, raptors, possessed, plague marines, and berserker dreadnoughts (crazed+ khornate+ 2 weapons.) Dreads with 7 attacks and an extra D6 charge distance were awesome.

Chaos lords with purchasable mutations and gifts were sweet. Possessed with purchasable mutations were fun.

Daemons who could charge the turn they were summoned was awesome.

And baroque daemonic machines running rampant on the field were awesome.

I own at least one of every chaos dread GW made, a few cool 3rd party ones, and almost every daemon engine (well up to a few years ago.)

I'm definitely in the "corrupt daemonic traitors are cool" camp. I also admit to being salty too. Our codices have been thematically cool and technically boring for a while. The strange mix of "slow and fragile" with "supernatural assault force" has made for some weird codices.

Chaos Army Showcase with photos (Updated 2013/12/02)
"To endure one's self is perhaps the hardest task in the universe." Frank Herbert, 'Dune Messiah'
Originally Posted by Dethklokk
"CHEESE!" is the battlecry of the ill-prepared.

Originally Posted by Deathscythe4722
Could someone please call the police on this guy? I can hear the English Language screaming in pain. This has to be illegal somewhere.
Kreuger is offline  
post #7 of 8 (permalink) Old 01-13-16, 10:06 PM
Senior Member
ntaw's Avatar
ntaw's Flag is: Canada
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Mississauga, Canada
Posts: 6,323
Reputation: 99

This would have been a good name for a project log.

Salty enough?

Unfortunately Canada got rid of the penny and now my two cents rounds down to zero, so...take it for what you will.

40k Army Projects

Industrial Table WIP
ntaw is offline  
post #8 of 8 (permalink) Old 01-14-16, 12:06 AM
Senior Member
The Sturk's Avatar
The Sturk's Flag is: USA
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 959
Reputation: 9

I pretty much fit that description for Necron players.
The Sturk is offline  

  Lower Navigation
Go Back   Wargaming Forum and Wargamer Forums > Warhammer 40K > General 40k

Quick Reply

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Wargaming Forum and Wargamer Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:


Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome