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The production costs to make an actualy box of minis is very little, GW staff discount apparently used to be that you paid for the weight of plastic used, and it would generally mean that a £20 box becomes 80p. The real production costs are making the moulds themselves, which cost thousands, its why not everything is made in plasctic as it simply won't make its money back, such as special characters, you will only ever need one of each. It's also why a lot of boxes now have the options to make several different units, as then only 1 mould needs to be made, but people will buy several of the same box to make a couple of different units they may want.

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The production costs to make an actualy box of minis is very little, GW staff discount apparently used to be that you paid for the weight of plastic used, and it would generally mean that a £20 box becomes 80p. The real production costs are making the moulds themselves, which cost thousands, its why not everything is made in plasctic as it simply won't make its money back, such as special characters, you will only ever need one of each. It's also why a lot of boxes now have the options to make several different units, as then only 1 mould needs to be made, but people will buy several of the same box to make a couple of different units they may want.
Interesting. That clears up a lot of questions.
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The production costs to make an actualy box of minis is very little, GW staff discount apparently used to be that you paid for the weight of plastic used, and it would generally mean that a £20 box becomes 80p.
GW staff discount was nowhere near that sort of crazy.
"Back in the day" it was roughly 75% off lead figures - if you went and got them yourself from HQ - and roughly 50% off plastics.

Now it's more along the lines of 50% off in-store stuff and around 20-26% off FW gear.



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Hell, back in the day when I worked for GW we paid for the pieces by weight.
Plastics where next to nothing and metal was really cheap.
I can't tell you about FW because I really never heard of it until a couple of years later after I left the company.

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^ a buddy of mine also paid by weight. Maybe it's a North American thing, @Tawa ?

Unfortunately Canada got rid of the penny and now my two cents rounds down to zero, so...take it for what you will.

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Well just to throw my two cents in.

GW games is certainly a luxury product, cost in comparison to demand should be lower but just isn't we can't really do anything about it. For whichever reasoning they have gone down that path, possibly looking to maintain profit margins or some thing of the like.

Many a time pricing in Australia and New Zealand has been talked about and my two cents on the fact that the prices are exorbitant even more so than the already costly game. In my interpretation some products are just having freight and tax added then converted into the local dollars, which results in the pricing. But as said many times already in this thread and others if you cannot pay the pricing but still wish to play thing game find alternatives, second hand products, ebay, or heaven forbid third party re casters or even other companies models. One that i have personally been getting right into is the old khromelch orks at a similar size and scale they work quite nicely and add a little variance to your pile of boys.

As to the staff discounts i find that quite interesting that at least at some stage they may have done payment in that method (by weight), I certainly think it is a bit of a double edge blade while staff got a good end of the deal it may have fueled the price gouging that followed. In my own experience with staff discounts one scheme that the company I work for (automotive parts sales) they work on a system of giving staff a basic trade discount such as between 15-25% GP on a product instead of the retail pricing scheme of 30-50% GP on products, which seems to be a reasonable system for keeping moral high.

Though another thought which just came to mind in it was always probably an method for having staff paint more models for display, threfor hopefully selling more models unlike in my case automotive parts where the actual staff having the products doesn't help the company apart from movement of stock.

well that about all of my rambling, for the moment at least.



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Well nowadays the hobby is for the player who wants to be in the hobby. Because there's a gazillion ways to get the figures that you need from sources other than GW and/or FW, same products, just a bit of extra flash to trim but good enough.
And way cheaper, wich is the main reason it is there.
So if you are complaining like a biaitch, well don't. There's no reason why.

There are plenty of other ways to get your plastic fix and stay in the hobby.
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I've dedicated my time to the game and making fluff armies all imperial.
All I have has been updated meticulously but is up to par to 7th edition (but the bases I'm still working on them)

So the way I see it, there's no GW victim or victims, there's just malcontents that don't want to break the piggy bank and get the new toy because it costs too much, well do your research and find were can you get it cheaper.
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Could well be a North American thing, but I don't know anybody that currently works for GW US


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Gamers Only 20 Percent of Games Workshop's Customers

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It does not mention games. In conversation, I’m told that the word “Game” in Games Workshop encourages the misconception that games are its business, but that only about 20% of Games Workshop’s customers are gamers. The rest are modellers and collector.
So in short, they don't care about gamers. You don't make them enough money. It's all about people who want to buy a Titan and have it sitting in the corner of their room; or collect the entire Horus Primarch set and display them on their shelf.
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