Originally Posted by Straken's_Fist
Um, what? I was very clearly explaining how it is in my personal life, which is why I started with "In my opinion..". Just because you may have all the time in the world to dedicate to 40k doesn't mean everyone else has, and vice versa. And actually it totally IS a valid reason why many people are leaving 40k, at least in my neck of the woods...But whatever.
Yes, I did elect to spend time on 40k. I used to have time for it. Now I do not, as quite frankly it is becoming more and more time consuming as time goes on (especially with the new edition every 20 months). Sorry you don't like that.
A hobby is something for you to occupy your time with so you aren't left suspended in infinite boredom and tv-watching
Oh right. I didn't realise you were the fucking Hobby Police. My mistake lol. But seriously, if you have nothing else to do in your life other than "hobbys", you may want to reflect on what you are doing with your life. Do you really spiral down into despair and "infinite boredom and watching TV" when you aren't putting time into 40k? If you are that dependant on 40k, maybe it's time to drop some acid, bang your girlfriend/wife a bit more, study, read a book, travel, exercise, scuba dive etc...You know, there is stuff out there other than 40k...I know that is shocking to a lot of 40k fanboys. But it's true. Honest.
Personally in my life as I get older I have less time to dedicate to wargaming. It could well be an age thing, as I am in my 30's. Most the people around me and at gaming clubs are also heading into their 30's. I really believe talking to people at gaming clubs and the ageing 40k fanbase that time needed to dedicate to 40k is a big factor.
Your logic is so superfluous when you say "Oh, but you don't have to paint your 100 models." No, I don't, but it's nice having a fully painted army, I find much more satisfaction from having a nice looking army or faction on the table. The point is it takes fucking years to paint, I do not have that time anymore as I get older, and i'd rather just play the gaming systems where I can knock out a faction in a week. When you combine it with having to cart around boxes of models, codices, rulebooks etc, finding storage space for it all it becomes a fucking pain in the ass.
With 40k: I get home from work, have to rush packing for half an hour, then cart it all to my gaming club, unpack it, re-pack it to take it home, then unpack it again the next day. With everything else: It takes me 3 minutes to pack everything into a tiny box and throw a tape measure. dice and a rulebook into my little back pack...I now have 25 minutes spare. That is a lot of time for me where I could be, you know, spending time with my wife so I can see her before going out.
This is just how it is with me and a lot of the people I know right now. I think your priorities change as you get older. I accept for other people this may not be a problem, as you may have more time. Great. Good for you. I am happy for you. But when time is at a premium do you not at least see how it could be a problem and an annoyance? Especially when you factor in things like having kids to look after. Suddenly those gaming systems that take up less time, space and hassle just become much more appealing. That is the very simple point I was trying to make. Not really sure why you got so defensive about it. But whatever dude. Enjoy your life the way you see fit. It isn't anyone else's business.
I wasn't having a go at you, I was questioning you. You seemed to completely misinterpret pretty much everything I said. What you do with your life is completely and utterly inconsequential to me, don't mistake me querying your logic for me actually giving the smallest particle of a shit what you elect to do with your time.
I'm going to address your questions, and disregard the completely absurd tone that you've chosen to take with them.
The whole 'infinite boredom and TV' was simply a figure of speech, which may have been lost on you. 40k is a distraction and a way to pass time that doesn't involve staring at a panel of lights that make shapes and colours. It's there as an alternative to some less stimulating ways to pass time.
I am not the hobby police, i have never studied hobby law and wouldn't know how to apprehend an armed and dangerous enemy of the hobby. So that's that debunked.
I'm not dependent on 40k in the slightest, up until a few weeks ago I hadn't touched a model in about a year and a half. I chose to get back into it not because I'm the metaphorical crack addict who's having a relapse, but because, as adults are perfectly allowed to do from my understanding, I changed my mind and actively wanted to reconnect with the hobby. I'd rather not do acid because my brain is quite capable of stimulating itself without the need to talk to inanimate objects or become terrified at the sight of a teacup. I work an average of about 50 or 60 hours per week, so I don't really think you have a place to tell me that I need more than just 'hobbys', or as i'd say 'hobbies' in my life. I also think the amount of time I spend . . . sexing. . . isn't really relevant, since 40k occupies a totally different time slot for me than the aforementioned bed related activities.
The word superfluous was also not really relevant to my logic, since logic can't really be superfluous, because that would mean having excess or too much logic. I don't see how that even makes sense.
I can see how a hobby might be an annoyance, and if that is the case then it probably shouldn't be one of your hobbies at all. Lot's of things irritate and annoy me, and in an astonishing turn of events, none of those annoyances are a hobby of mine.
As my final point, i'll just highlight the comedy of your closing statement, where you claim that I got defensive, yet if you read my post, simply questioning your logic, followed by your spate of personal attacks, apparent concerns for my sexual activities, and general raging, i might have said that it was you who was being overly defensive