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Yep we disagree on DTs. What about the rest of those I've mentioned.

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Same story. You're taking "Ignore FOC" to mean "Ignore everything about selecting units" and it isn't. You still need a character to take Command Squads and all the rest of it, because that's what it says in the codex.

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Again disagree and done till faq since it is just you and me going in circles

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Personally I hope sethis is right on this one.


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you guys are clearly missing the point of unbound by the looks of it
as its quoted above
The Unbound method is the easiest way to organise an army: simply use whichever units from your collection you want. Besides being a quick way to get your models on the tabletop, the Unbound method also allows you to try out exciting combinations in your army, such as fielding a whole force of Tanks or Flyers, or even of special characters.

if someone wants to field an army of DT what does it really matter? its just gonna be for fun at the end of the day, wanna field a 8 assualt cannon land raider, i say go ahead, make it a feature of the game, just make sure you pay a good amount of points for it and crack on with a game, if it wipes the board, dont play it again, if it dies first turn try again, its a game have fun with it.

personally i think GW is trying to undo years of making 40k too anal and straight laced and saying , dust off your imaginations and have some fun with it,fuck balance,fuck competative and tourneys,have a beer and a smile and crack on
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I'm in the "'ignoring FOC' does not mean 'ignoring any rules you like'" camp.

I think it is worded quite clearly - Unbound Armies ignore the FOC. If you want to ignore more of the army selection rules then that is fine too, but it is not an Unbound army and you can use your own home-brew rules as much as you like.

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But it says you can use what ever you want in your collection, it's the quickest way to get your models on the table. To me in seems perfectly ok as the raiders in my list are units which means they can be taken without any other rules restrictions.

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I wonder if people are missing what I believe to be the point of the unbound lists. It seems to be for you to take units in the codex without adhering to the FOC. DT are a FOC restriction (they way I see it anyway).

As for the orky/marine/tau list, as long as you adhere to the allies restriction I dont see why you can do this. Eldar riding in Raiders, why the hell not?

I would prefer my opponent to stick to unit limitations (5 to 10 marines in a squad) but when @revilo44 brings an army of Night Lord raptors to the table it will be awesome! Maybe I should take a whole army of storm boyz .... now that would be an great battle!

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I wonder if people are missing what I believe to be the point of the unbound lists.
I don't think anyone is missing anything at all, but ...

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It seems to be for you to take units in the codex without adhering to the FOC. DT are a FOC restriction (they way I see it anyway).
By assembling an Unbound Army you are allowed to ignore FOC restrictions, yes.

Dedicated Transports though, have nothing to do with the FOC at all. They're unit upgrades.

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Dedicated Transports though, have nothing to do with the FOC at all. They're unit upgrades.
I was under the impression they are a unit as they have their own unit entry. In battle forged you must take these as part of a unit dedicated transport. I'm not sure as I don't have a codex available right now but does the Rhino entry, as an example, say it must be taken as an upgrade? I would be interested in the exact wording.

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