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I was talking to my friend/lgs owner about the state of affairs with regards to GW. He told me of long conversation he had with his GW sales rep that some may find interesting and others,like myself may find insulting. Im quoting from his post on the lgs forum. ” Had a long, interesting convo withmyGW rep today. It was prettyinsightful.

Here are some notes, in no particular order...

-GW is not concerning themselves with game balance or competitive play in any respect.

-GW is totally fine with TOs tweaking the rules to create a more balanced game in / for tournament settings. [Lots of talk about how GW tried the tournament scene and how independent TOs do a much,much better job. They'd rather lett he TOs run events and tweak the rules to create game balance in a tournament / competitive setting.]

-Supplements aren't designed with game balance in mind. They are designed with fun / cool in mind. [He sighted FoB and what they did with the Escalation rules many, many times over the ~hour long convo.]

-Expect to see more movement towards giving players the opportunity touse the models they own in games of 40k.

-GW has no PR department. There will be no official announcement about any of this stuff or any article in WD. They'd like people like me to communicate this sort of thing and "steer" the community in whatever direction we'd like based on it.

-While the stock did drop 25% overnight, based on that report,he went onat length about how GW is a dividend company and is still going to be paying out it's dividends. Something about how 4 people own almost all of GW (stock), how profits on the whole are down (duh) but profit per dollar spent is way up (also duh). Blah Blah, this means little.

-Weekly releases, which most of us knew about.

-Weekly WD starting in Feb.

-Monthly230+page magazine.

-The people that write the rules often don't remember what they write.[Spoke about convos he's had or been involved in with writers or stories he's heard. Mentioned one instance of a guy asking one of the writers about a rule he wrote and the writer responded with something like, "yeah,that sounds cool. why don't you guys play it that way from now on."]

-Costs increase. They are not targeting everyone. They "are not going to open a GW store in Compton."

-They recognize they have priced new or potential players out of their games and plan to "address it."

-The term "gray beards" was used to compare GW gamers to model train guys. An older, wealthier, group that doesn't see a ton of new people entering the hobby.

-They view the ~$200 startup cost as something that will provide the average person with a month's worth of"entertainment," comparable to roughly 3 video games.

-The rep dislikes the fact that people that are not qualified to write articles on GWs financial situation, policies, or direction often write articles on the internet that people take as gospel.

-They want to sell models based on coolness factor, not on price tag. Cited an example where they reduced the price of WHFB cavalry models to 25 bucks (from 45) and there was absolutely no change involume. (which,tobe fair,ISa valid point. when it comes to lots of model miniatures, if people want it, they're going to buy it. at some point everyone will begin to consider price, but that number is different from person to person.)

There might be some more, but it's a holiday and I'm swamped in here.

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-Mentioned how the Tau and Eldar books were mistakes in that they elevated expectations for the remaining 6th ed books. Said not to expect all (any) books to be quite on that level going forward. Mentioned how it's probably nice for "us" that the books were so strong. [brought up after i mentioned the tyranid book, escalation, dataslates.] ”

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A: This is not news
B: This is second hand information from someone who got his information most likely from the internet
C: This is still not news

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A: This is not news
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C: This is still not news
Couldn't have sad it better myself.
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He posted this word for word in B&C Rumors and it was promptly locked. Still, A for effort.
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Moved to 40k General.
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A: This is not news
B: This is second hand information from someone who got his information most likely from the internet
C: This is still not news
Your wrong. I have personally delt with and have been friends with this guy for years. he unlike most of the people on the internet actually owns and operates a LGS and sells many different games. He has to talk to the sales reps at GW and other companies for inventory and orders and such. he doesn't even play the game so trolling false info has no benefit to him. It could actually hurt his business. If this isnt news to you just move on. No need to troll the thread.

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Unless you talk to a board member, nobody but nobody at GW knows the inner workings of the company. Don't believe anything that comes from the mouth of anyone but Mr. Kirby himself.

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Unless you talk to a board member, nobody but nobody at GW knows the inner workings of the company. Don't believe anything that comes from the mouth of anyone but Mr. Kirby himself.
And even then.

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Sales reps aren't supposed to talk about some of the stuff that you posted.
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Sales Reps do not know anything beyond what they are told in order to sell things. And that is not much.

They do not know the inner workings of the Studio, they are not privvy to what the Board is doing.

There are 2 rules to being a success in life:
1) Never give out all the information

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