Wow. This issue has gotten a lot of response. And I get the impression that people are not very happy. I had no intention to offend. So my sinceres apologies to anyone who is upset.
Donning my Moderator Hat: I am not certain what intellectual property you would need to post to support your thesis. If you could give some indications (or send my a PM) I can confirm either way.
Sorry Dave, I didn't notice you were a moderator. I PM Jez and he said it was Ok.
You can't define something without a definition.
But there is one, from Google
the most active, committed, or doctrinaire members of a group or movement.
"there is always a hard core of trusty stalwarts"
synonyms: diehard, staunch, dedicated, committed, steadfast, dyed-in-the-wool, long-standing;
What IS a hardcore gamer? How many rules do you need to know before becoming one? How good do you have to be at the game itself? Can you be a shit hardcore gamer, or does the definition of "hardcore" include some intrinsic assumption of skill?
From Wikipedia: "They are frequent purchasers of games, prefer to expend significant time on games..."
Regarding pages of rules - MTG has (last time I looked, years ago) literally hundreds of pages of rules governing it, but to actually play the game then you just need to know the card types, drop a land every turn, and cast what you've got in your hand. The basic mechanics are pretty easy to understand. I can teach someone to play in about 30 minutes. Is that equally "hardcore" or less?[quote]
I would say that the player can be casual or hardcore with Magic. It depends on their motivations.
If you're using money spent as a way of catagorising people, how much do you have to spend? £40 for a starter paint set and one unit? £200 for a 1500pt army? £7000 for a Chapter of Ultramarines?
Very good question! I'm not sure, but I would say £200 for a 1500 point army. Enough to play a standard game of 40k. But even that is a bit ambigious. But still a very good question! Thank you.
With regards to your Carcassone example, that is a board game. Not even a very famous one (compared to something like Monopoly). Very few people will play it "casually" because more likely than not, they also have multiple other boardgames such as Settlers of Catan, Race for the Galaxy and Munchkin etc. So if you added up the total amount of money and time spent on the boardgames "hobby" then it might equate to maintaining a 40k army.
Sure, there are probably people who are dedicated board game enthusiasts that have a hundred board games and have studied the rules for each one.
And I would have to echo Vaz - what does it matter? Why is it important to create such catagories in the first place? Who does it help, and what purpose is served?
Because I'm working on an article and I'd like to reference another very well written article (about game balance) that uses the terms "casual gamer" and "hardcore gamer."
Also based on the fact that my two brothers "play" about once or twice a month (and for my younger brother I almost literally have to drag him into it), I would say that they are pretty casual gamers (but still gamers, because they still play). I'm not sure exactly what you're going for, but I'm interested to say the least.
Now that is an interesting situation! And not one I thought of. Thank you!
Did your brothers paint anything or did you paint it all yourself?
I mean why bother labelling people? What is the point? Just because you can?
I never wanted to label. Just work on a definition. But I'm very sorry that I did label.
>> I would have classed myself as hardcore in my earlier playing days due to the fact that all i done was "buy, build, play", with not a lick of paint on a mini. Now, due to having a family and a job, I paint more than I game, so i suppose I could be called a casual gamer, as i only play twice avery 2 months or so. But when it comes to other parts of the hobby, Im hardcore as fook, as i am always reading something 40k related, novels as an example, or swatting up on background. As Dave T said, theres more to 40k than gaming and painting.
Since people don't like labels, I'd say your very dedicated. Then and now.
Can you make a living from playing 40k full time?
No. Your thinking "pro gamer."