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He won't let people say Helldrakes are OP'd in store? Putting aside the obvious control issues that he has...

So... if your army doesn't have access to a transport with AV14 all sides you are supposed to do... what? Ally with one? You can access 4 via allies max. So to counter 1 spammed unit his only solution is to ally with Black Templars and bring 4 Landraiders of which only 2 can act as a dedicated transport for troops?

If that's not the definition of OP'd unit I don't know what is. One thing I do know however is that if you look up the definition of "stupid little hitler cunt" that guy's name and picture would be under it.
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If that's not the definition of OP'd unit I don't know what is. One thing I do know however is that if you look up the definition of "stupid little hitler cunt" that guy's name and picture would be under it.
And here I thought you meant lady-parts with a Hitler mustache.

Impressively, that makes him a dick and a Hitler cunt.

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Well he does sound like one talented wargamer running a triple drake list and all.
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And it's so balanced that only a few armies can 'counter' it- for twice to thrice the points, taking up other valuable options

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And it's so balanced that only a few armies can 'counter' it- for twice to thrice the points, taking up other valuable options
Which usually results in you spamming things, which you then become as bad as the helldrake spammer

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And there was me thinking all GW employees were the epitome of gaming knowledge and tactical advice.
Thankfully freedom of speech means If I want to say helldrakes are OP I will and fuck the store manager maybe he actually believes in the mythical game balance that people talk of and even the oldest armies have a well hidden hard counter to mass flyers of any type.

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And there was me thinking all GW employees were the epitome of gaming knowledge and tactical advice.
Thankfully freedom of speech means If I want to say helldrakes are OP I will and fuck the store manager maybe he actually believes in the mythical game balance that people talk of and even the oldest armies have a well hidden hard counter to mass flyers of any type.
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No one in my store uses a Heldrake, what exactly is wrong with them?
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No one in my store uses a Heldrake, what exactly is wrong with them?
Damn near unkillable with multi-layer defenses, immense damage output, all the benefits of Flyers with none of the downsides, criminally undercosted.

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Lets just say AP3 torrent 360 degree on the weapon, flyer and vector strike, that is daemonic and will not die for 200 minus 30 pts

They win games, they are the shining light in the otherwise mediocre chaos book. Taking 3 is generally considered to be a total douche move, even 2 is considered evil, but you would never field just 1.

If chaos was released now they would likely cost about 250pts, compared to the awfulness of the tau and DA flyers, heldrakes are just godlike

Plus I really like the model, other than the hollowness and that it needs a longer tail
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