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You can still include some nice pictures and art. But all the back log can be its own book. Such a waste of pages. You would still get all the stuff you want but each book would cost less so for the people who want just one or the other they don't have to shell out all that money and only need half the book.
but chaos you could say that about anything, we could cut apples in half and charge a little more than half for each half because some people cant afford a whole apple or dont eat all of one,the codex supplement is a "nice to have" not a requirement to play, you can field a perfectly good eldar army with yellow bodies and blue hats using the Eldar codex as it stands.



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but chaos you could say that about anything, we could cut apples in half and charge a little more than half for each half because some people cant afford a whole apple or dont eat all of one,the codex supplement is a "nice to have" not a requirement to play, you can field a perfectly good eldar army with yellow bodies and blue hats using the Eldar codex as it stands.
Trust me B&K I get where your coming from and your right its not a MUST have but I still disagree with the pricing for something so minimal.

For example if GW is going to put out say 5 supplements for the Eldar, they could have put a nice book of back story together with those 5 supplements. then have 5 small books with rules and pictures for the people who just play the game.

That way you can buy both if you want too, or if you can only afford bits at a time you can do that too.

I wont support these supplements the way they are I would much rather borrow them for the 10-15 pages I actually need.

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I actually am looking forward to the supplement. For three reasons. 1) I like Iyanden fluff. 2) I want to see it succeed, as fluffy rules light additions to books are fun. And I want to encourage GW to do more of it. 3) Wraithknight HQ? I'm There!
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Trust me B&K I get where your coming from and your right its not a MUST have but I still disagree with the pricing for something so minimal.
I disagree on both counts. The supplement is 121 pages long. That actually makes it longer than the actual codex itself. Additionally, they're providing Altar of War, an iPad only DLC for codexes to date, included. That means for something larger than the codex it is still the same cost, along with additional content that runs for an additional $7.99 USD.

I'm going to have to say that looks like a pretty fair deal to me.

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For example if GW is going to put out say 5 supplements for the Eldar, they could have put a nice book of back story together with those 5 supplements. then have 5 small books with rules and pictures for the people who just play the game.
Again, I still disagree. This is obviously designed to pander to people who like Iyanden, want to play a "proper" Iyanden army and that's fine. I'm sure some crunch players will get their fill out of this too, but it's something that isn't geared towards the average player, but rather someone who feels strongly about their army theme.

And not only is that okay, it's frikkin' awesome. Consider the possibility for the big factions to have all those flavoured armies out there. Proper representation for White Scars, Imperial Fists and so on. Could you collect every single one of these books in addition to the codex? Sure, but it's really meant for the players of those specific armies who want to take playing their army's theme a step further. People who want to do more than just play Marines who are painted Yellow and call them Imperial Fists but who want to actual rules to get the proper "feel" of their army on the table.

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That way you can buy both if you want too, or if you can only afford bits at a time you can do that too.

I wont support these supplements the way they are I would much rather borrow them for the 10-15 pages I actually need.
These expansions are made primarilly for the player who wants to make their army just a bit more "fluffy" and flavourful. I see this as an exceptionally good thing. Sure some crunchier players will pick them up here and there, but splitting the book just seems unnecessary because you're making the ones who want an army that's just a bit more fluffy to pay more to field it than the crunch player who only buys the rules.

Besides, I don't hear people complaining that they only want the rules in their codexes or FW books, so I don't see why we need to suddenly switch here.

EDIT: Forgot that 121 is the number of pages in the supplement on the iPad. Rumours are claiming 32 pages for the hardback.

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3) Wraithknight HQ? I'm There!
Not HQ, just able to make one your warlord. Difference.

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Well, maybe, still a great option. with spiritseers being inexpensive in points, still works out.
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Not sure if this was mentioned yet. Pre-Orders for the LE and standard book will start June 15th apparently. (from FLGW staff)

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Well with us on the cusp of the supplement being released on iPad on the 8th it's no surprise that we have stuff coming out of /tg/. Here's what they claim has been leaked:

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Blessing. Gives all friendly wraithguard, wraithblade, wraithlord and wraithknight models within 12" Battle Focus and Furious Charge.

Heres the Warlord Traits

Warlord traits:
1 D3 re-rolls per game for the walord
2 Warlord and all units within 12" have FnP (6+)
3 Warlord and his unit have hatred
4 Warlord has the spirit mark rule. if he already has it he can mark 2 units per turn.
5 Warlord and his unit has +1 to deny the witch rolls
6 Warlord may re-roll failed saves. loses the ability once he suffers and unsaved wound

And new Wargear

Celestial Lance
6" S8 AP2 Assault 1, Lance, Spirit Shatter (If it kills a character or MC, place the large blast marker over the slain model and all units (friend and foe) suffer a hit at the slain units toughness with AP -)
S+3 AP2 Melee, Impact, Lance, Spirit Shatter

Wraithforge Stone
During each of your movement phases, nominate a single wraithknight/wraithlord within 6". On a 3+ they gain a lost wound.

Guardian Helm
Always passes LoS rolls in units of wraithguard/wraithblades and wraithguard/wraithblade models can accept challenges if in the same unit.

Spear of Teuthlas (psyker only) -------Iyannas weapon!!!!
18" S9 AP - Assault 1, Fleshbane, Rending
SUser Ap - Melee, Armourbane, Fleshbane, Rending

Soulshrive
S3 AP2 Melee, Mastercrafted, Spiritstealer (+1S to every unsaved wound caused earlier in the game)
There you go. No idea how accurate this is, but that's how rumours are. That should give you an idea if you want this book or not though.
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