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a little annoyed with this book, i was very excited about getting the book but then i realized it is the same price as the codex for the physical copy and we are not really getting much for that price.(i could understand if it was a full iyanden codex and not just a supplement and i know people are going to say "well its GW what do you expect", i will tell you what i expect. i expect to be taken out to dinner before they screw me.)
In the US the supplement book is $10USD cheaper. Also when you look at what GW has done for supplement books before this is right in line with that, and has more actual fluff and shiny pictures (and missions, and expansion rules for the army).

I don't agree when people claim that GW is screwing them. This book is 1,000% optional. You have everything you need in the main codex to play Iyanden, this just adds some more tweaks for those who want to take that a little further. You don't need it if you don't want it (unlike a codex which you NEED to have the most recent one for your army) so GW isn't screwing you.

It's a nice addition for those who want it, everyone else can be more than content with the regular book.
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Of course we can complain about the prices of optional things. It is silly to expect commentary here to influence GW at all though. Personally after spending $50 on a book for an army it would be nice to not have to raise the total to $90 just for books. I would have aimed a little lower but it would still add up no matter how you look at it.

Which isn't to say the book doesn't have the content to back up the price. Even if it is more fluff than rules.
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the thing is Zion i do want the extra rules i just don't think a 72 page book should cost the same amount as a codex and mainly consisting of fluff, pretty pictures and with a handful of new rules.

also its only $10/£5 cheaper on the ipad

"Death? You want death?
I'm afraid that would be far too boring.

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the thing is Zion i do want the extra rules i just don't think a 72 page book should cost the same amount as a codex and mainly consisting of fluff, pretty pictures and with a handful of new rules.

also its only $10/£5 cheaper on the ipad
Those rules are going to be good for about 5 years right. Now I'm going to use US numbers here, but I'm sure the point will make sense:

1x 360 game with maybe 12 hours of content? $60

Warhammer 40,000 Codex + Expansion for 5 years? $90.

So for $18 a year I'm getting more from the books than the video game in terms of lifespan, and more re-playability because the game can be different every time based on mission, terrain, opposing army, ect.

I'm sorry, but comparatively speaking I see a good deal here when it comes to where my money goes. But that's how I see it, how long I'm going to be using this codex until the next one comes along. That same rule applies for the supplements too.
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you have missed out some variables, like you might not always use the supplement and the rough cost of models for your list and any future lists you may do

"Death? You want death?
I'm afraid that would be far too boring.
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you have missed out some variables, like you might not always use the supplement and the rough cost of models for your list and any future lists you may do
So you're saying you'd spend the money to buy a supplement that you might occasionally use?

Still better value than most of my 360 games.

Seriously, if I spent the money on a supplement it's either because I want it for my collection of books, or because I plan on using it all the time.

None of the rules in the Iyanden book require a specific FOC selection or have any restrictions or even make you take 1+ of something, so I don't know why you wouldn't use it if you're playing Iyanden.

But that aside, I play Sisters. I've spent a small boat (well maybe a dingy) load of money on them. I don't look at cost short term in this hobby because there is more to what it gives me -right now-. There's what it gives me next week, and the week after and so on. And 5 years is still a better way to look at how you're money is working for you than one purchase.

At least that's how I see it.
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i was talking about 5 years worth of collecting(i know the pain of buying sisters i used to play them until i missed the issues of white dwarf and the codex became invalid)

the way im looking at things is that i sometimes want to take a look at what the codex can do on its own and also what the supplement can bring to it.(and also its nice to not carry so many books around)

my opinion on the matter is that £15/$20 would have been a nice consumer friendly price point for the book.(but then again when have GW been worried about consumer friendly?)

"Death? You want death?
I'm afraid that would be far too boring.

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I say vote with your wallet, buy it if you feel it's price worthy (which it isn't, 2 pages of rules for $40 is not justifiable under any circumstance even with fluff and pretty pictures). Heck you dont even need to do that as all the rules from it are posted in every rumours thread on every forum. Just copy paste the rules into word and print it out.

The 2 pages of rules could have been a free download or at worst put in WD, it should have been a $10 .pdf download which would generate ALLOT more money than at the $40 price point (I can't prove this but common sense suggests that at that price point anyone who buy the Eldar codex would consider it compared to question if it's worth buying at the $40 price point.).

I hope this doesn't sell well, I hope it forces them to rethink their strategy and come out with products of similar quality but at 1/4th the price.

-Whaa whaaa whaaa, you want the same quality product for cheaper! You ungrateful bastard!

Well, if it was $10 I'd consider buying it, that's 1/4th more money they'd make compared to me not even considering it as it is right now.

How many of you consider the $40 price point reasonable? How many of you would consider buying it at the $10 point mark?

-But printing the book costs allot of money! Allot of time was put into the pictures and fluff and all the other shit in it!

Digital version at $10, physical softcopy book at $20 for those that really want it and make the $40 hardcopy the collectors editions.

There are allot of ways to make the Iyanden supplement exciting to buy without making it feel like a rip-off but whoever is responsible for the marketing at GW is a fucking retard.


In the end GW wont change, they will continue to lose market share as they have been doing for the past 10 years and hopefully with GW being sold whoever is taking over can save this sinking ship.

Vote with your wallet, buy if you want to support this type of behaviour from GW.

Yes, you can have the cake and eat it too. GW needs to realise this and adjust accordingly.

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well im excited about it and have just ordered it , i know it cost me £30 in the uk but i play the army and am excited about the more in depth fluff + extra rules , so im excited and cant wait to get it
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Vote with your wallet, buy if you want to support this type of behaviour from GW.

Yes, you can have the cake and eat it too. GW needs to realise this and adjust accordingly.
Bah, I'd bet one Iyanden Supplement that if anything they wouldn't aim for cheaper and simply ditch supplements entirely. Learning is hard.

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