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3++ has a copy of the WD, so here's what Kirby has posted thus far:

-First off, the Windrider Jetbikes are the exact same, just re-packaged into a bigger product.

- Dire Avengers are the same be down-packaged.

- Both flyers are Fast Attack - Hemlock Wraithfighter with two Heavy D-scythes and mindshock (advertised to work together and make units flee and kill infantry dead) and Crimson Hunter (which was upgraded to an Exarch - described as Fighter Ace upgrade) which has two Bright Lances and a Pulse Laser.

- Wraithknight - can take two arm weapons and two shoulder mounts (normal heavy weapons). Scatter Lasers or Wraithknight has Laser Lock - twin-linked weapons after initial weapon hit. Suncannons are the advertised S6 AP2 heavy 3 blasts.

- Wraithknight is apparently "incredibly fast."

- Psychic powers are rolled for. Fortune Doom and Guide still exist.

- Units are still "role specific."

- Battle Driven - Shoot then Run

- Quicken is a psychic power which "helps assault units get into assault faster."

- Avatar still has Fearless bubble and Fleet.

- The Wave Serpent has something called a Serpent Field - an offensive weapon.

- Author: Phil Kirby

EDIT (also updated Battle Driven):
- Randomly generate psychic powers- Primaris is Guide (Fate) and Conceal/Reveal (Battle) which provides or removes Shrouding.

- Wraithknight is an MC (wounds are talked about regarding it, not Hull Points)

I'll keep adding to the thread as more is posted.

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i expect jet bike to be a fast attack option , but they can be troops if u take a certain hq maybe, i wouldnt mind that to much
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Well if you are going all Jetbikes, then dont worry. Those rumors also suggested a Jetbike HQ unlocked Jetbikes as troops.
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there is a jet bike autarch conversion kit in fine cast so dont worry about all jet bike army, but sadly that does confirm we are not getting new jet bikes in this wave.
That all sounds good to me... I understood it that the HQ that could unlock choices was the Autarch, who could take differing paths that allowed units of that path to be takes as the compulsory troops choices, but as far I understand jetbikes weren't a Aspect path aside from Shining Spears that is, but I don't see any reason why there couldn't be a jetbike unlock too.

And while there doesn't seem to be actual new jetbike models from the sounds of it, at least that repackaging might make it a bit more convenient to get them in larger amounts, so that at least is decent news to me.

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A bit more from 3++:

Wraithlords and Wraithknights are Heavy Support.

Wraithknight standard load out is Heavy Wraithcannons. I imagine those are the S9 AP2 blast lance stuff people were talking about before. It is implied the shield takes a mount. Legs are posable similar to Riptide. Standard loadout is two Wraithcannons. Shield is an upgrade.

Instant Death is implied for at least one of the Wraithguard shooting weapons.
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No new jetbikes makes me a sad panda. I guess we'll have to wait to see the codex entry to see if they get other heavy weapon options other than the shuriken cannon to indicate if we'll be getting a new kit. I just think that they've massively dropped the ball by repackaging the existing bikes as unless they become immensely customizable loadout wise they aren't going to sell

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This is the one thing in the entire release that makes me sad
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Necron Destroyers $50.00
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Marine Bike Squad $40.00
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Is this just a random update GW is giving us marine/necron players?
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Jetbikes have become a popular unit over the years and it's rare to see an Eldar collection without a squadon of these iconic models
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"Jetbikes have been around for over a decade in their current sculpt, as they were essential in many lists in previous editions most Eldar players have loads of these shitty oldschool models (LOL we repackaged them, you honestly hoped we might make them half decent and fit with the other new models - SUCKERS!!!)"
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An idea of the size ratio for the wraith constructs
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holy hell, i'm looking forward to seeing an army of wraithguard with wraithlords and wraithknights HS.

I am also looking forward to my next apolcalypse battle after the new dex and these toys - will be like a robot fight
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More from 3++:

- Wraightknight has access to Heavy Wraithcannons

- Adam Troke helped with fluff (is this the new thing? 2 people tackling books to get them done faster? Who knows?)

- No idea if Battle Driven allows you to run then shoot (the WD doesn't say)

- Fire Dragons and Dire Avengers were used in the Battle Report. Fire Dragons seem to be the same as before.

- AUD Price list:
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AUD prices:
$83 codex
$125 Wraithknight
$185 battleforce
$76 flyer
$55 wraithguard
$50 jetbikes
$55 dire avengers
$22 farseer
$28 spiritseer
$28 ranger SC
$10 psychic cards
- Army List from the Battle report:
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Avatar of Khaine
Farseer w/Spear, Mastery Level 3 (choose three powers)
Warlock w/Mastery Level 1 (chosoe one power) and by choose I mean rolled for

5x Dragons w/Wave Serpent (twin-linked starcannons)
5x Wraithblades

10x DA w/Exarch, Powerweapon Shimmershield
10x DA w/Exarch, Powerweapon Shimmershield, Wave serpent (twin-linked brightlances)
6x Jetbikes w/2x Shuriken Cannons

Hemlock Wraithfihter
Crimson Hunter w/Exarch

Wraithlord w/Brightlance Ghostglaive
Wraithknight w/suncannon, shattershield, 2x scatter lasers

About 2000 pts
- Guide is friendly unit now - 24" range.

- Conceal/reveal - psyker gains shrouded; enemy unit within 18" loses stealth + shrouded.

- Executioner- Focussed Witchfire that hits a model 3 times at the farseer's S with Fleshbane AP-. If the model dies it goes on to the next one with 2 hits, if it dies then another with 1. If the Farseer gets to pick the 1st model hit he can also pick the 2nd and 3rd.

- Descructor/Renewal (Battle)
S5 AP4 template + soulblaze which causes more soulblaze
18" regeneration of a wound (can't revive dead models)

- Jetbikes are Troops. Wraithguard I think are Troops with Spiritseer.

- Warp Spiders have battle focus (MIGHT be "Battle Driven", was not easilly made out), hit & run, fleet and the ancient thing.

- Dark Reapers have ancient thing, slow and purposeful, missiles, reaper rangefinder

- Crimson Hunters are the red Aspect Warrior fighter jets with a Pulse Laser and two Bright Lances. They can take an Exarch upgrade.

- Ghostglaive is a CC weapon, looks like a new name for the wraithblade.

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