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I somehow also neglected to mention the Wraithknight's 3+ invulnerable save-- it's either a weapon option or comes standard-- the rep wasn't too clear with me on that one. But based on the model shown in White Dwarf, I'd assume it's standard. Or it's one of those things you just shrug and pay for because the thing's 9'' tall...

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Sold! I figured it'd be an AV 12 walker with 4-5 hull points, but I hadn't thought more than a 4++. A 3++ makes its much much more scary. If its an actual MC, I am a bit more worried. Mostly for the well being of the Wraithlord's stats.

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Sold! I figured it'd be an AV 12 walker with 4-5 hull points, but I hadn't thought more than a 4++. A 3++ makes its much much more scary. If its an actual MC, I am a bit more worried. Mostly for the well being of the Wraithlord's stats.
Always room for another T8, or perhaps a T9 MC. No need to nerf the Wraithlord if the Wraithknight doesn't directly compete with it for slot space.
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Always room for another T8, or perhaps a T9 MC. No need to nerf the Wraithlord if the Wraithknight doesn't directly compete with it for slot space.
Oh it's absolutely a monstrous creature. S10, T8, and towers over every other model out there short of titans. How could it be anything less than a monstrous creature?

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Oh it's absolutely a monstrous creature. S10, T8, and towers over every other model out there short of titans. How could it be anything less than a monstrous creature?
Oh I agree. It NEEDS to be one because unless it was treated like an Apoc Super Heavy it wouldn't last past turn 2. I was just saying that I don't see why the Wraithlord should have to suffer any because it shouldn't be in the same slot as this is.
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Now I'm worried the Wraithlord isn't S10 T8!

It didn't have to be one, since a 3++ goes a long way on a vehicle. And you don't have to worry about snipers, poison, or rending as much.

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Now I'm worried the Wraithlord isn't S10 T8!

It didn't have to be one, since a 3++ goes a long way on a vehicle.
It's easier to hurt AV than high toughness though. Toughness stops suffering from things a lot quicker than AV does. Plus all the other big oval base walker looking things are MCs.
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any idea how to convert the big thingee seventy is a bit steep and if i could get 2 for a hundred pound i would be very happy
edit thank you very much son of horus up until you posted it was all doom and gloom
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Minus forgefiends and maulerfiends, from CSM by Phil Kelly

Also, AV doesn't worry about S 5 like T8, both are at the same odds at 6, at S7 AV 12 can die in one shot but it can whether it with a good save. If the thing does have more than 2 weapons it could fire all of them as a Walker, but only 2 as an MC.
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