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Before I start, I'm hoping im on the right section...

Some of u guys may know, I'm currently trying to build up a Custom Chapter based off Space Wolves Codex, my problem is that I currently got my eyes on a Tactical Space Marine Squad and it's giving me a headache. From my understanding, the Space Wolves "Basic" squad is called "Space Wolf Pack", but I see that the Wolf Pack's choice of weapons are Chain Swords and Bolt Pistols, while the Tactical Space Marine Squad has Boltguns instead...



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[Please note that I have not read the Codex yet (got to buy one)]

What I want to know is, if I buy a Tactical Squad, can I treat them as a Wolf Pack? Or do they HAVE to have a Melee Weapon + Pistol to be correct with the Space Wolf Codex? Also, I notice mode advanced units for Space Wolves use alot of Melee weapons, meaning that if I use other Space Marine models, would I have to change their arms to Melee type weapons such as Claws? (I wouldn't mind doing it, but would like to know if there is choices)

Cause to be honest... I'm not too crazy about the whole Barbaric look (Keeping the wolf feel, but with a cleaner look, ), but at the same time I do like the Space Wolves style when it comes to battlefield (from what I read on forums).

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Ah, this is what not reading the Codex will do...

Space Wolves have two 'natural' Troops choices. Grey Hunters, and Blood Claws. Blood Claws are kinda Scouts in Power Armour (ie, bad at the whole fighting thing) and Grey Hunters are Tactical Marines with no heavy weapons, no Combat Squads, no Combat Tactics, but a CCW on top of their Bolter and Pistol, and Counter-Attack and the ability to smell in the dark [which is of limited use, as they have no heavy weapons...]
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i think the "wolf pack" are blood claws who are CC units, the Grey hunters are the "normal" SM style units with boltguns etc.

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I don't think anyone would have an issue with you proxing marines for... marines. The thing that might be an issue is WYSIWYG. Since you'd have to tell your opponent, this marine is equipped with this, not what you see. And since it is a custom chapter, also let them know what codex you are using. And on that note, do pick up the codex. The SW organization is really quite different (I can't remember the different troop choices--I think scouts are involved, but they're not like SM that's for sure). I'd recommend building an army list first and using that as your shopping list.

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Hmmm... I see. So if I buy a GH squad, it's pretty much as if I bought a Tactical Squad.

I really like bolters, guys, and it would disappoint me not to use them... I know... pathetic.

As I was waiting for replies, I bumped into this while typing Grey Hunters on Google



Ignoring the fact that this is one of the most beautiful squads I've seen, I notice none are holding Chain Swords........... Unless this is a Regular Tactical Squad with SW looks.........

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Well, the squad isn't fully WYSIWYG - they have no pistols, CCWs, or Grenades - but considering the paint job, I think we should let him/her off...

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The space wolf pack contains more than bolt pistols and chain swords,it also contains loads of spare heads bolters and other stuff to transform the standard space marine kits into space wolves, there is no one or the other or proxy , they all work together.
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The thing is that you can use the Tactical squad as Grey Hunters and you are covered by WYSIWYG. You only need to model a special weapon such as a frost weapon or power fist. The unit comes with bolters, bolt pistols, and a ccw. If you use the Tactical squad for them you are fine as the models are assumed to have all the normal gear that is in the profile for them.

You do not need to put frag and krak grenades on any of the marines as that is in the profile for them, melta bombs do need to be modeled on them as they are an option. If you have to spend points for it then it should be on the model. This is mostly to keep your enemy from being confused about what the guys are equipped with. If your opponent has played any games against the SW's before then he should know that GH have bolters and ccw/pistol on each guy.
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The space wolf pack contains more than bolt pistols and chain swords,it also contains loads of spare heads bolters and other stuff to transform the standard space marine kits into space wolves, there is no one or the other or proxy , they all work together.
Click on my bannet below and search for wolf pack to see what is in the box
Unfortunately I just bought mines and when I opened, I didn't get Bolters, all I got was Handgun Bolters, Chain Swords/Power Sword/Hammer, and A SH*T LOAD OF HAIRY HEADS!! (Lol). Soo I'm in the hunt for bolters and SM Helmets, which is ok, atleast I bought the hard part... the boxset itself.

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Huh? 'Handgun Bolters'?? They're Bolters mate, same as any other...
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