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With Dash flying this is one of my favourite ships!! It's almost an arc-dodging turret :D

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With Dash flying this is one of my favourite ships!! It's almost an arc-dodging turret :D
Whats your build?

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The Raider will improve the Advanced, no doubt, however it doesn't address the big weakness, which is the dial. I'm not convinced that they will become the new "power" Imperial ship. What it does, instead, is give us a viable ship in the mid-20s point range, which we've previously lacked - you essentially had to run two TIEs, or a pretty basic Interceptor.

Dash is, to my mind, better than the Falcon, especially since he no longer has to burn 12pts on a HLC to get some kind of damage output. Having a large ship able to boost and barrel roll off asteroids (often behind them) with 2 green dice means you've very frequently got a 10hp ship rolling 3 evade dice at attackers, to say nothing of arc dodging like a pro. That makes it massively more survivable than the Falcon, who relies on not being focused and tanking the few hits it does take on a couple of evade tokens.

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Dash in the 2400 with the Mangler Cannon and Outrider title. You can add more, but honestly this by itself has worked well for me and leaves more space for other ships.

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The Raider will improve the Advanced, no doubt, however it doesn't address the big weakness, which is the dial.
Check out this article, which shows us all the new Advanced pilots....one of whom does exactly what you need:





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I've seen it, and I'll certainly give her a try, but I'm not convinced she'll replace my beloved Defenders at the 30pt+ mark, or for that matter Fel/Vader.

Dash suits VI, if you have it, to ramp him up to PS9 for a single point. Lets him outshoot almost anything, esp if you have initiative.

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Juno is like "F*ck it! Anything you can do, I can do better. I can do anything Better than you!"

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I've seen it, and I'll certainly give her a try, but I'm not convinced she'll replace my beloved Defenders at the 30pt+ mark, or for that matter Fel/Vader.

Dash suits VI, if you have it, to ramp him up to PS9 for a single point. Lets him outshoot almost anything, esp if you have initiative.
I'm looking at a vader juno echo list now downside could be fat han lists. Will have to playtest.

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If you gave Juno: Engine Upgrade, Push The Limit, Tie 1x/Advanced Sensors you would have an exceptionally maneuverable ship. The biggest issue I see is 2 attacks, but surviving to shooting matters.

VI on Dash is good times, just haven't played many games where I've needed him out-shooting much. To be honest I play Chewie in the Falcon more often if I'm using a large ship for the Rebels at 100 points.

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It's not so much about the shooting (although with a Mangler getting crits in before they attack is sweet) and more about knowing where to barrel roll to! But then I haven't played the Rebel big ships much, they're a bit too... popular... for me to really want to use them.

That loadout is maneuverable, it's true, but then you're spending 35pts on a ship that averages a single hit per unmodified attack, which isn't enough to damage a TIE fighter. 5pts more buys you a very decent Echo, which throws double the red dice, has more green dice, and is even more maneuverable than Juno with a FCS for free target locks. I think the best use of the x1 is going to be generics with Acc Corrector to be "like an X-Wing, but Imperial". ;)

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