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i dont get the point of takeing sliscus in this army tbh, he makes drugs better but you dont have wytches and it makes 2 splinter cannons wound on 3+ for the same price of buying another venom with 2xcannons trueborns
the deep strike is the only thing different he bring to the game but you are so fast that entering from the board edge is not really that different imo
dropping him+voidraven+FFs for hemo+ravager buy you 230 points for more shooty goodness or a couple of wytches raiders (you'll need to drop something else for those but you got the point)
The duke is probably the best character in the book.

he's cheap, pretty good in combat, works well with this army and he makes a squad a little better at shooting.

he is much more reliable than a what you suggest...when shit hits the fan the duke can get it done.....<3 Duke Sliscus

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yes hes not fully taking advantage of Dukes special abilities, but the duke is worth his points at not using all his abilities.

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Alright, well the tourney is tomorrow and since my order of 7 venoms came in on weds, I got all 6 I need put together and primed (not strict on the 3 colors at this stores tournys). I did decide to make a few last minute changes that did help out.

The list I will be using:

HQ: 215
Duke Sliscus

Haemonculus
- Scissorhand

Elite: 284
3x Trueborn
- 3x Blasters
- Venom w/ Splinter Cannon

4x Trueborn
- 2x Splitner Cannons
- 1x Shardcarbine
- Venom w/ Splinter Cannon

Troops: 656
8x Wyches
- Haywire
- Raider (no upgrade)
(I was thinking of dropping the Haywires but too few points back to get much wargear)

5x Warriors
- 1x Blaster
- Venom w/ Splinter Cannon

5x Warriors
- 1x Blaster
- Venom w/ Splinter Cannon

5x Warriors
- 1x Blaster
- Venom w/ Splinter Cannon

5x Warriors
- 1x Blaster
- Venom w/ Splinter Cannon

Heavy Support: 345
Ravager
- FF

Ravager
- FF

Ravager
-FF

Total: 1500 exactly.

I could drop the FF's to get a 9th wych and some wargear + upgrades, but this unit is just there as a tar pit with 4+ invul and FNP,so upgrades are not neccesary or their role. Well like I said earlier, my major concerns are against Tau and IG. Well I faced off against those armies 3 times each this week.Ended with a 2-3-1 record. The static guard is just scary to me... played with all models on the table in cover... couldn't make a save and was footslogging everything on turn 3. Tried deepstriking in an won barely (got most reserves right of the bat). Tried holding in reserve and walking on the edge and got a draw. He made the mistake not to charge forward until it was 1 turn too late. Game ended on 5, if it went 6 game was his.

Tau, well tried the same 3 strats and won the game I DS in easily (again got a lot of my reserves in on turn 2), lost the other 2. His firewarriors tore me a new one like I thought they would in the game I walked on. And the game I started with everything in play but in cover went well. Lost in the end but went 7 turns and was my game if it ended on turns 5 or 6. These are the 2 players I fear the most and usually 2 of us play each other for the top spot so if I get to the end I will see one of them.

If anyone has a lot of experiance playing against a infantry Guard (about 26 Heavy weapon squads and over 120 infantry with a Vanquisher + Pask and Gryphon) and a Tau with Fire warrior spam in Devilfish. Any tips would be great

Thanks again for the comments. I'll post results and I will bring my camera so I might put together battle reports and post in that section.

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best advice I will give is the same you get all over, use LOS, and Dakka one squad at a time down.

I like the new list Timesplitter, though i do understand your not perfectly min maxing the list due to time constraints yeah? it should do fairly well if you stick to a DE way of playing and dont start playing like a scrub SM player.

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best advice I will give is the same you get all over, use LOS, and Dakka one squad at a time down.

I like the new list Timesplitter, though i do understand your not perfectly min maxing the list due to time constraints yeah? it should do fairly well if you stick to a DE way of playing and dont start playing like a scrub SM player.
Haha, yeah its a bit different feel then Daemons or the near unkillable Mech Eldar tanks, but already seeing things better and playing a bit smarter. Heck I might just spend the next few hours just testing out LoS and positioning of units.

Yeah I decided not to min/max the list at this time since even though I'm not new to 40k, I am still new to DE so I want to see a little bit how units work together (Beside the wytches and Haemonc I would take another warrior squad and maybe scourges), but I never got wyches to work before, so I need to learn to use them, since I possibly would put in 2 squads in a 2k version of the list.

Well I have never played SM so I guess I'm good there

Thanks again for the help

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no problem timesplitter, its the joys of working on power builds and testing units.

Wytches are great if you use them as they are meant to be, which is hold up units, they are CC units to keep the warriors out of CC, as the are not power houses with power weapons, or high S attacks, or 2+/3++ armor, or high W. they are great after that first pain token though, without that they suck.

Edit: to add, when you roll duke, try to get the +1 S, reroll to wounds, or the +1A. the S i find is best as once you get a second pain token on them, S5 attacks with FnP on that first turn, makes them very dangerous.

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Well, I completely forgot to post the results of the tourney last saturday. Did pretty well, left with a 2-0-1 record and finished 3rd. I unfortunatlly lost the tertiary points in the final game, which was the difference between finishing 3rd or 1st. No one finished with 3 wins as draws plagued the 3rd round.

First game I was up against a pure CC Nid list with lots of MC's..... Tabled him by end of turn 2.

2nd game was against CSM Lash list with 4 rhinos of 5x Noise Marines w/ Blastmaster in each. Also 4 Oblits and a Vindicator. Well DL's killed the Oblits turn 1 (love instant death) and blew off the cannon on vindicator, not too mention killed off 1 lash prince and 2 wounds on the 2nd. He was tabled by turn 3.

Then the 3rd game....well I faced the Infantry IG player and got a draw. Had to focus on the HW squads best I could, got some to run by the time it was his turn, lost 1/3rd of venoms and we just kept trading blows until the game ended due to lack of time on turn 4 as a draw. That was a game I wish I had Scourges to deal with his Vanquisher + Pask. Every turn is a sure tank blown up, so I wish I had them to stun it or even get a decent chance to get a weapon destroyed. I think for next time I'll out the Scourge/Venom spam list you posted KA... that thing is just nasty.

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I know, I havnt played against meched out IG with it, but it hasnt lost a game since I Min Maxed with the scourge

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