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We can only hope GW can make a FAQ that says something like. "Flying monsterous creatures do not have to start in swooping mode when they are summoned via a spell or tithe from deepstrike."
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Wondering how well a Blood Host that consists of a Slaughter Cult and a Gorepack (for the minimum 1-8 aux choices), for the Blood Tithe, plus a CAD of 6 cultist squads, would fly. Add in 5 solo spawn as distraction/blood tithe earners... an entirely sacrificial army bent on tying up the enemy army in cc while dying in droves, summoning in replacements, and earning any objectives they are called upon to handle. Would do better in Maelstrom than in Eternal War, if only on account of the risk of rolling the Scouring or Purge the Alien--that's a lot of flimsy Fast Attack and kill points...

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Nope. Unfortunately, Flying Monstrous Creatures coming in from Deep Strike Reserve (and conjured/summoned units count as coming in from Deep Strike Reserve) must Swoop the turn they come into play. I assume it's to represent a Tyranid Harpy dive-bombing from flying way above the battlefield, and such, so it doesn't make much sense for a daemon ripping his way out of some champion, but... it's how the rules are written. Bloodthirsters nee to come on Swooping, so your first turn you can move them you need to change them to Gliding so you can move them next turn. Frustrating, but...
I feel like that may be FAQed since thats a very odd chian of events
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I feel like that may be FAQed since thats a very odd chian of events
Well, it's been the case for summoned Bloodthirsters and Lords of Change since 7th dropped with Malefic Daemonology in, and we've yet to see an FAQ. Now that a lot of folks will be summoning Bloodthirsters very frequently, we may finally get one, but...

Damn it, I've suffered longer!

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So couldn't you say that once its summoned that the moment hes on the table you can then say he is switching to gliding? also If he gets shot at he can be grounded, once that happens you are the able to assault once its your turn agian, correct?
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So couldn't you say that once its summoned that the moment hes on the table you can then say he is switching to gliding? also If he gets shot at he can be grounded, once that happens you are the able to assault once its your turn agian, correct?
Nope, Deep Striking FMCs count as Swooping when they come in, and you can't move them (giving them the chance to switch from Swooping to Gliding) that turn. So yes, you actively hope that they take an unsaved wound so that they can fail a 3+ roll so they take a S9 AP2 hit...

All so that they can assault the turn they come in. That's an unsaved wound (and probably another from grounding), on top of the D3 wounds with only Invulns to save at the end of each of your turns, for that Axe-summoned BT.

Seriously? Seriously.

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hmm hope this is fixed! Well I think I will build my army to the list i earlier came up with, 3 Blood letters on the table at once is scary
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Not that anybody was really wondering about Karanak being in the webstore for KD, but:

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Thank you for writing in to us. Karanak is not present in the Khorne Daemonkin Codex; you are correct about that. The web listing Karanak amongst that army entry on the webstore appears to possibly be in error, and we have submitted a note about this to the Web Team to address.

Thank you again for bringing this to our attention, and please let us know should you have any other questions.


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I'm still not sure why people are trying to Spam out a Bloodthirster via Blood Points rather than just taking a Bloodthirster.



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because turning a 20!?! point naked cultist champion into a 250 point bloodthirster is a hell of a deal?

of course, those of us "hoping' for an FAQ to change the flight modes of summoned creatures are probably wasting their breath.... this isn't a case of something being unclear, as the rules are actually very clear regarding this point. its just that we don't want it to work this way=(
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