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Haven't had the chance to play with KD yet but in my lists they have either an axe of khorn or a power fist. Sometimes blood-forged armor and sometimes a lightning claw to go with the fist.


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how are you guys building your chaos lords? A jugger with goredrinker is what i'm going to try out first but i'm kind of bummed that there isn't an AoBF equivalent that strikes at initiative with a strength modifier.
True, but with the Axe of Khorne Available on a multiple guys, I think its an OK trade-off.

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hmm, so you aren't worried about throwing str 4 attacks from him via the axe of khorne? I had a couple games using the black mace on a csm juggerlord and had terrible luck trying to kill things, granted i forgot it was a daemon weapon so i wasn't throwing the extra d6 attacks, but it has me worried.
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hmm, so you aren't worried about throwing str 4 attacks from him via the axe of khorne? I had a couple games using the black mace on a csm juggerlord and had terrible luck trying to kill things, granted i forgot it was a daemon weapon so i wasn't throwing the extra d6 attacks, but it has me worried.
The Black Mace has Fleshbane, so you should have been wounding any non-vehicle on 2+, even at AP4 on a Lord (vs AP2 on a Daemon Prince, thanks to Smash), so... S4 isn't too large an issue, there, I think...

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The Black Mace has Fleshbane, so you should have been wounding any non-vehicle on 2+, even at AP4 on a Lord (vs AP2 on a Daemon Prince, thanks to Smash), so... S4 isn't too large an issue, there, I think...
i am a goddamn idiot, lol. I was happy with the AP4 since i was fighting necron warriors but failing to remember the fleshbane and the daemon weapon piece.

Though, my failure to comprehend the black mace aside, you guys aren't worried about throwing str 4 with the axe of khorne chaos lord?
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There's always the icon of wrath to help add furious charge to the Lord and unit. I know S5 still isn't amazing, but I decapitating blow is pretty good.

But I agree the axe of Khorne is pretty ho hum otherwise. It's expensive and doesn't hit all that hard. It's not even a daemon weapon, and since it is a specialist weapon you actually lose the additional attack for 2 weapons.

I think honestly it should probably have also conferred Rampage.

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I'd have been happy if it had Rending alongside Decapitating Blow, since you still can't hurt T8 at S4, even with Instant Death on 6's. Rampage also would have been great, though. Blade of Blood is conspicuously absent from the codex.


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Is that the case? I would think, like rending on a vehicle, you'd be able to attempt to wound.

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I'd have been happy if it had Rending alongside Decapitating Blow, since you still can't hurt T8 at S4, even with Instant Death on 6's. Rampage also would have been great, though. Blade of Blood is conspicuously absent from the codex.
T8 is rare, and if things are going well you should have a DP or Bloodthrister on the table. To deal with the few T8 units out there. S4 AP2, will be able to chop most terminator like units into very small parts.

I plan on running at least two forgefinds with auto-cannons. 16 S8 shots will be able to keep the few T8 things in areas where I want them. The AoK on a Lord (maybe in terminator amour) will be there to deal to deal with infantry.

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The fact that the AoK is at-initiative AP2 is what makes it attractive; that it costs more than a Power Fist for half the strength makes it less so, especially given that the Daemons codex gets it for a third of the price. I think I'll stick to Fisticlaws rather than taking the AoK, myself. It will slot in alongside Fisticlaws items, though it is kind of in the halfway point between that Power Fist and Lightning Claw, wounding less often than either.

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