Daemon Prince - Black Mace, MoN, Wings, Power Armour, lvl 3 psyker, spell familiar, BBoS - 385
Typhus - 230
You cannot take the Black Mace and the BBoS. As you are takeing the MoN I would drop the Mace and run him as a dakka Prince, keep him out of CC and run around exploding stuff! (you could get away without the Armour as well, given then fact he will be flying and surouded)
Noted, this will save me many points!
10x Plague Marines, 2x Melta guns, combi-melta, melta bombs - 275
2x 10x Plague Marines 2x Plasma guns, combi-plasma, melta bombs - 285 x 2 = 570
I like both these units, Almost feel its worth cuting them into 4 squads to get 2 more special weapons. But that's just me.
3 units, 3 squads of 10. The reason they are 10 strong is because i find Tau seem to kill 2-3 guys in a squad a turn with longer range and S5 guns, and my terrible rolls. 10 just keeps them truckin for 2-3 extra turns.
20x Plague Zombies - 90
Cool, I would love so see a bigger blob but I know you have said before you are limmited on your weapons.
I know, one day, I'll have a thousand cultists! And I'll rule the world! MUHAHAHAHA! Ahem....
4x Terminators MoN, 4x combi-plas, chain fist, power fist in landraider w/ typhus (maybe) - 189 + 230 = 419
Nice, I would drop the Combi-plas. Their is no need for shooting if you are in the "Landbunker"
only there for a disembark, blow up a few guys with artificer armour/few wounds on a riptide and then charge in and make a mess of things. But I see your point.
3x Bikers MoN, 2x Melta guns, combi-melta, power weapon - 133
5x Raptors, 2x melta guns, combi-melta - 125
Both very sensible choices. I would drop the Power Weapon on the bike, a bit of an over spend on a unit that you should want to keep out of CC (apart from very week units)
Helldrake w/ baleflamer - 170
Yep, Cheep and powerfull what more could we ask for! (well maybe some bombs or something!)
Yeah, im thinking of switching the bikers to plasma for longer range AP2 shots and keeping them away from CC all together. About the drake, my brothers constantly complain about the heldrake being unfair, I just tell them "so the only decent thing in my team that's better than any of your guys is unfair, but its ok to take a riptide or troops with stormshields?"
5x havocs, 4x A/C, MoN behind ADL w/ quad gun - 230
[COLOR="red"]Nice, lots of shooting. great unit.. May be you need a few more men for wounds/COLOR]
3x oblits, MoN - 228
Vindicator, combi-bolter, siege shield - 135
again both soild choices, not sure about the combi-volter on the Vindicator
Combi-bolter is there to make the weapon destroyed thing 50/50 no instantly make a vindicator a tank shocker all game.
This list is basically cramming in most of my models into 1 army, the second list was after I read the part in the rule book stating "in a 2000 point game, you may take 2 primary detachments as long as they are from the same codex, also allowing you to take 2 allied detachments from the same allied codex." Hence list 2.
Typhus - 230
Sorcerer - psyker lvl 3, MoN, spell familiar, force axe, SoC - 165
Like them both, run them in the same unit and things get scary!
Gotta try and break 'em up. Have spells flying out from 2 different directions, keeps my options open!
9 Plague Marines - 2x Plasma guns, combi Plasma, melta bombs - 308 + rhino /w Havoc launcher
10 Plague Marines - 2x Melta Guns, combi melta, melta bombs - 322 + rhino w/ Havoc launcher
20 Plague Zombies
Eh, kinda worried by low scoring units I know its the relic mission, but even so
zombies with Typhus drawing fire, which I now know he will from my game against Tau the other day, he'll draw 2-3 turns of fire and allow me to make my move. He's a very expensive decoy this game....
2x Chaos Spawn - MoN - 72
Helldrake - baleflamer - 170
Again both good choices, not 100% on the Spawn, but its up to you
Spawn are there for a meat shield, 6 wounds on T6 Isn't easy to kill. They will lead the Juggerlord and the bikers, so they can advance and do their thing.
8 Havocs - 4 Autocannons, IoV (fearless) - 194
Icon of Vengace may be overkill. otherwise a good unit.
2x Obliterators - MoN - 152
I would drop the IOV and see if you can find a few other points to get a 3rd Obliterator
The IoV is there in case something bad hits the havocs, I need them there for dakka and cant afford them to run. Plus I've got 2 more oblits in my other detachment.
2nd Primary Detachment
Chaos Lord - MoK, AoBF, SoC, Juggernaught, VotLW - 175
A nice choice to grab the Artifact. What unit is he with?
Bikers/Spawn (i know spawn are nurgle, but they'll be about 3" behind so not in same unit)
10x Beserkers - IoW, VotLW, melta bombs - 230
10x CSM - MoK, IoW, CCW instead of bolters - 180
Both nice units, thinking about it I would drop the Juggernaught and a marine and run the lord in the CSM squad
These guys are the scoring unit. They run for the relic, the berserkers are in place purely for khornish delight, if i think that i can safely get the relic with the other squad and get away, the zerkers can go spill blood.
3x Bikers - MoK, IoW, Power weapon, 2x flamers, combi flamer, melta bombs. - 136
5x raptors - 2x melta guns, combi melta - 125
Again, I would cut down the bikers, drop the Icon and MOK, and Power Weapon. Run them with Meltas and go huniting tanks. If you want fast CC, the raptors is a better plan
I've done the old "raptorcide" with oblit support and it actually works wonders. More often than not the raptors then jump into some cover and start butchering scouts. while the oblits carry on obliterating... Worst comes to worse the bikers can break off from the juggerlord and scoop up the relic too, so I need them for mobility.
Predator - Autocannon, 2x Heavy Bolter sponsons - 95
Forgefiend - 3x Ectoplasma cannons - 200
2x Obliterators - MoN - 152
Your HS looks good. I would think about adding a Havoc and some combo-bolters on the Pred
Thanks. I would add a havoc launcher but I already have 2 on my rhinos. I've learn that havoc launchers chew up firewarriors for breakfast seeing as they have 5+ save, err... no save to the havoc!
If anything I could drop the combi-flamer and power weapon on the biker champ and throw a havoc launcher on the pred and a combi-bolter. Maybe a combi-bolter on the juggerlord too. Thanks Uveron!