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Hi guys, this is my first attempt at a death guard themed list, let me know what you guys think.

HQ
Chaos lord
Power weapon
plasma pistol
MoN
sigil of corruption
palaquin of nurgle
Will be running with the melta squad


daemon prince
daemon of nurgle
mastery level 3
wings
power armour

TROOPS
7 plague marines
2 plasma guns
power fist
melta bombs

7 plague marines
2 plasma guns
power fist
melta bombs

7 plague marines
power fist
2 melta guns
melta bombs

7 plague marines
powerfist
2 flmaers
melta bombs

4 x rhino

ELITES

3 terminators
3 x combi melta
mon

hellbrute
plasma cannon

bellbrute
plasma cannon

HEAVY SUPPORT

2 obliterators
Mon


total 2002

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Hey mate, a few things to consider.

Your lord on palanquin can't go in a rhino I don't think, I could be wrong though, just double check. Plasma pistols are meh, with a range of 12" you may be better off loading a combi-plasma or even giving him a lightning claw and power fist for an extra attack and a chance to shred marines! Also, I'd be scrapping the power fists on your champions, the plague knife is amazing and doesn't really need the upgrade.

Your daemon prince is a level 3 psyker and doesn't have a spell familiar. This is a MUST as he only has Ld 9. Another thing to add would be the helbrutes, I'd scrap them and bring 2 more obliterators and mark them all with Nurgle for T5.

Your terminators are not goingto be very useful in a squad of 3 either, unless you're using them as termicide (deepstrike, pop a tank and die). I find a squad of 5 raptors with 2 melta guns and a combi melta on the champion works better as they are more mobile, you can drop in beside a tank, kill it and hide behind the carcass and live, then jump around popping more tanks!

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ok i run nugle too alot and i can save some points for u on things

first - u realy dont need the power fists the plague dagger is better but add a combie wep

second - the palaquin of nurgle is not needed (a/ its poo and b/ take up 4 spaces in rhino)

third - If your deaom prince is 300 pts or more look at belakor hes ace if not him he need the black mace (can 1 shot calgar)

forth - i wouldnt take obs but a 5 man havoc unit with wther 4las,4auto or 2 of each

but this is just my 2cents if u want me to send u my nurgle list holla thats never lost and i play vs eldar,orcs,guard,marines and other chaos
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A few things, Echoing things said by a few others on this thread.

#1- The Rhino cannot carry Bulky (or any variation of) Models. So the palaquin of nurgle cannot go in the Rhino. SO you want to keep him on foot add a bigger squad for him to hide in.

#2- Plasma pistol, Drop it. But if he is on foot with a large squad the BBoS works well.

#3- A Powerfist in the squad the Lord is can be a good plan, as the AC can avoid challenges and lay some AP2 punches down, but on all squads is overkill.

#4- I would drop the Prince for. A- More Heavy Suport, B- Another Lord to run with another squad
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Thanks guys for all your input after considering everyone's thoughts, this is what I have come up with: let me know what you guys think, cheers!

HQ
Chaos lord
lightning claw
combi plasma
MoN
sigil of corruption 4+ inv
Will be running with the melta squad

Chaos lord
lightning claw
combi flamer
MoN
sigil of corruption 4+ inv
run with the flamer squad

TROOPS
7 plague marines
2 plasma guns
melta bombs


7 plague marines
2 plasma guns
melta bombs


7 plague marines
power fist
2 melta guns
melta bombs

7 plague marines
2 flmaers
melta bombs
power fist

4 x rhino

ELITES

3 terminators (termicide)
3 x combi melta
mon

FAST ATTACK
helldrake w/baleflamer
helldrake w/baleflamer



HEAVY SUPPORT
2 obliterators
Mon

2 obliterators
Mon


total 2004

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Thanks guys for all your input after considering everyone's thoughts, this is what I have come up with: let me know what you guys think, cheers!

HQ
Chaos lord
lightning claw
combi plasma
MoN
sigil of corruption 4+ inv
Will be running with the melta squad

Chaos lord
lightning claw
combi flamer
MoN
sigil of corruption 4+ inv
run with the flamer squad

TROOPS
7 plague marines
2 plasma guns
melta bombs


7 plague marines
2 plasma guns
melta bombs


7 plague marines
power fist
2 melta guns
melta bombs

7 plague marines
2 flmaers
melta bombs
power fist

4 x rhino

ELITES

3 terminators (termicide)
3 x combi melta
mon

FAST ATTACK
helldrake w/baleflamer
helldrake w/baleflamer



HEAVY SUPPORT
2 obliterators
Mon

2 obliterators
Mon


total 2004
Looks good!

Not 100% sure about Obliterators. But They get allot of love from most people, I am just unsure about them!
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HQ
Chaos lord
lightning claw
combi plasma
MoN
sigil of corruption 4+ inv
Will be running with the melta squad

Chaos lord
lightning claw
combi flamer
MoN
sigil of corruption 4+ inv
run with the flamer squad
You'd be better off finding points to give this guy the Burning Brand of Skalathrax, torrent str 4 AP3 flamer? Yes please!
TROOPS
7 plague marines
2 plasma guns
melta bombs


7 plague marines
2 plasma guns
melta bombs


7 plague marines
power fist
2 melta guns
melta bombs

still don't know why you're taking power fists, they're good, but unless you're tackling something nasty (like a HQ) your plague knife will be sufficient, and tanks/walkers, melta bombs. But up to you, dropping these could free up the points for a BBoS for your 2nd lord.

7 plague marines
2 flmaers
melta bombs
power fist

4 x rhino

ELITES

3 terminators (termicide)
3 x combi melta
mon

128 points for a suicide terminator squad that will be useful for 1 turn (3 melta shots and thats it, back to bolters) when you could take 5 raptors with 2 melta guns and a combi-melta for 3 points less.

FAST ATTACK
helldrake w/baleflamer
helldrake w/baleflamer

again, no arguments!

HEAVY SUPPORT
2 obliterators
Mon

2 obliterators
Mon

These guys are good, awesome in fact. I tend to use mine as support drops for my deepstrike units, ie: I drop my raptors in and pop a tank, at the same time, i drop my 2 oblit squads near by and either A) blow up another tank (within 6" using twin link melta, or within 12" my multi meltas) or lay down some nasty fire on infantry with plasma/autocannons, depending on their armour save. By doing this you give your what was, rapticide, into a unit that can jump into CC with a squad and tie it up for a turn, or even jump and blow up another tank. Note: Termicide can't do this because they can only move 6" and basically become a 1 turn unit.

total 2004

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Alrighty thanks whittsy for your input, I didnt know raptors could deep strike, I would much prefer these guys running around rather than the termis, like you said they are much for versatile how about this:

HQ
Chaos lord
power fist
combi plasma
MoN
sigil of corruption 4+ inv
Will be running with the melta squad


Chaos lord
lightning claw
burning brand of skalathrax
MoN
sigil of corruption 4+ inv
run with the flamer squad

TROOPS
7 plague marines
2 plasma guns
melta bombs


7 plague marines
2 plasma guns
melta bombs


7 plague marines
2 melta guns
melta bombs


7 plague marines
2 flmaers
melta bombs


4 x rhino

FAST ATTACK
helldrake w/baleflamer
helldrake w/baleflamer

5 raptors
2 melta guns
mon
combi melta
melta bombs


HEAVY SUPPORT
2 obliterators
Mon

2 obliterators
Mon


total 2001

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I would drop the powerfist from the Lord.

Unlike whittsy I like the PF on Plague Marines AC's when they are running escort duties, I know you lose the Poison attack. But the Stregth 8 makes up for that, as does the AP2.
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Yup, fist on plagues is standard. I'm trying to work out why nobody's mentioned bikes, 7nurgle bikes with an icon, 2 melts, a combi melta, and a powerfist is going to tear it up and has a to. Of resiliance. You could always throw your Lord on a bike and give him skalthrax and a fist. To make the points you.d have to loose some plagues a think and the raptors, what you gain is a mobile beast squad that performs the roles of both squads cheaper. 2 oblits are good but do they match up to a vindicator? Cos that's how much they cost. Armour is always appreciated. My thoughts.
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