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You can get screwed, but you can also get lucky. Gambling/probabilities, it's why we roll the dice!
It is more imbalanced, but some places are house ruling that a card you cannot possibly score (like, pass a psychic test when you have no psykers, or kill a flyer if the enemy have no fliers) you discard and redraw. (or reroll, as it were, if you're not using cards)

You can plan around the randomness by bringing a very mobile list with enough firepower to remove targets on command and plenty of Objective Secured units--that's the ideal method of building a list for Maelstrom. Honestly, it's pretty fun to have such a shifting battlefield, rather than waiting to pounce on objectives when the game will cut off randomly or continue mercilessly.

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Wyches aren't so hot, or at least weren't today. All of the wounds inflicted on the Champ/Lord were done by Lelith. The wyches just couldn't hurt T5 easily enough. T4 is at least a 1/3 chance.
Not so hot at all, now that they all lost their ability to take Haywire grenades, too.

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post #122 of 338 (permalink) Old 10-17-14, 05:05 AM Thread Starter
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I'm thinking of running the following as a 1500 point tourney list:

Crimson Slaughter:

Chaos Lord: Daemonheart, Mark of Nurgle, Bike, Sigil of Corruption, Power Fist, Blight Grenades

Chaos Space Marines x10: 2x Plasma gun, Rhino
Chaos Space Marines x10: 2x Plasma gun, Rhino

Noise Marines x10: Blastmaster x2, Icon of Excess

Havocs x5: 4x Autocannon
Obliterator
Obliterator

Heldrake: Baleflamer
Bikers x3: Mark of Nurgle, 2x Meltagun

Aegis Defense Line: Quad Gun


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I ran this list at a 1500 tourney, and actually ended up 2nd place out of 4.

Chaos Space Marines: Crimson Slaughter

Chaos Lord:
Blade of The Relentless, Daemonheart, The Slaughterer's Horns, Prophet of The Voices, Sigil of Corruption, Mark of Slaanesh

Chaos Decimator
2 x Siege Claws

10 x Noise Marines
7 x Sonic Blasters, 2 x Blastmaster (Single Frequency), Icon of Excess

10 x Possessed
Mark of Slaanesh, Icon of Excess

Heldrake
Baleflamer

Forgefiend
2 x Hades Autocannon

2 x Obliterators
Mark of Nurgle

Total 1499 points.

Heavy backline with plenty of shooting, a deepstriking Decimator with siegeclaws (which includes 2 heavy Flamers) and a big group of possessed with a beast of a Lord attached. The Lord also gains FnP due to the Icon of Excess, making this group a fun group to play around with.

Far from a typical list, but I thought it fit the Crimson Slaughter lore pretty well and it was damn fun to play!
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Chaos Space Marines x10: 2x Plasma gun, Rhino
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I might honestly break this into 3 or 4 units. I dunno if you're going to be playing Maelstrom in your tourney or not, but I'd consider minimum squads of 5 CSM with a plasmagun and a Rhino--3 of those and a cultist squad behind your ADL, or something--for a buuunch of Objective Secured Rhinos and squads that opponents would have to blast their way through.

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Bikers x3: Mark of Nurgle, 2x Meltagun
I'd try to get another body or two for this squad, or failing that, at least meltabombs on the champ so he can support the Lord in taking on tough vehicles that their meltas haven't cracked.

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Thanks guys, I'm definitely gonna revise the list a bit.

I don't have any Decimators, unfortunately. Not sure if Forge World or even proxying is "allowed" at this tourney, either.

Also, where's my Juggerlord? Bah! Why am I not playing my gat dang Juggerlord?


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Here's the list's updated form. Still no Juggerlord, just wanna try this Nurgle thing out:

Chaos Lord: Mark of Nurgle, Daemonheart, Power Fist, Lightning Claws, Bike, Blight Grenades, Sigil of Corruption

Chaos Space Marines x5: Rhino, Plasma gun
Chaos Space Marines x5: Rhino, Plasma gun
Chaos Space Marines x5: Rhino, Plasma gun

Noise Marines x10: Icon of Excess, 2x Blastmaster, 2x Sonic Blaster

Bikers x4: Mark of Nurgle, Meltagun x2, Melta Bombs
Heldrake: Baleflamer

Havocs x5: 4x Autocannon
Maulerfiend: Magma Cutters

Aegis Defense Line: Quad Gun

Any better?


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Would try to free up the PTS for Slaughterer's Horns for the leader in that one as you aren't Khorne. So the Fury Charge & Rage is nice.
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Would try to free up the PTS for Slaughterer's Horns for the leader in that one as you aren't Khorne. So the Fury Charge & Rage is nice.
It was down to a choice between the Slaughterer's Horns and having a Lightning Claw. Rage and Furious Charge would indeed be badass, because he's S9 on the charge and an extra attack will help, but the net result will be the same if I don't have 2 specialist weapons (# of attacks, not strength). Could go either way, though.


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I've written an alternate list. Just can't really make up my mind. 1500 points with Chaos is hard!

Crimson Slaughter CAD + C:CSM AD (this is allowed via the tourney rules)

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(CS) Mastery Level 3, Balestar of Mannon, Force Sword, Aura of Dark Glory
(C:CSM) Daemon Prince: Daemon of Nurgle, Wings, Armor, Black Mace <== Warlord

(CS) Chaos Space Marines x5: Rhino, Plasma gun
(CS) Chaos Space Marines x5: Rhino, Plasma gun
(CS) Chaos Space Marines x5: Rhino, Plasma gun
(C:CSM) Cultists x10

(CS) Bikers x5: Mark of Nurgle, 2x Meltagun, Melta Bombs
(CS) Heldrake: Baleflamer

(CS) Havocs x10: 4x Lascannon <== joined by Sorcerer

(CS) Aegis Defense Line: Quad Gun


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(CS) Mastery Level 3, Balestar of Mannon, Force Sword, Aura of Dark Glory
I'd drop the AoDG and grab Termi Armor for only 10 more points (probably by dropping a Havoc). Also I'd probably take a Force Axe rather than a Force Sword so that you can, say, wound a Wraithknight if need be (on a 6, sure, but with Force... that's enough).

Consider dropping the ADL and Cultists in exchange for, say, a Forgefiend w/ HACs for the Sorc to Prescience (would need to scrape up another 25 points, maybe crop a CSM squad instead of the Cultists if you go this route), or a Maulerfiend and another Biker. The FF would offer more & higher S shooting, and if you have any Ruins on your half of the table (which you should with any halfway decent preset tourney tables), the Havocs will be hiding there already. One of the CSM squads can go CSM rather than CS. A Maulerfiend would let you have an even more threatening attack force, and allow you to reserve your Prescience for the Havocs.

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