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Hey guys as you know I've been trying to make a decent unmarked night lords list for competitive play. This christmas I was blessed to get damn near my whole army, my wife loves me a lot lol. Then on another website a guy rips my army saying its going to suck, I need marks, night lords are all about raptors etc. I am just posting this list in order to see if I went wrong somewhere.
Prince Of crows(huron):160
6 terminators w/5 combi-plasma/reaper autocannon/votlw/:258
9 csm w/flamer/rhino/close combat weapons/:167
10 csm w/votlw/2 plasma guns/rhino/:215
2x10 csm w/2 meltaguns/rhino/votlw/:410
6 bikes w/2 plasma gun/power maul/votlw/:181
1 heldrake w/baleflamer/:170
2 maulerfiends w/tendrils/:270

Your honest opinions and critiques would be most welcome.
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I like the list. It has a lot of flavor and many cheap, versatile units.

Rather than an awkward 9 man CSM squad for Huron (one of chaos's big weaknesses is in the transport area), I'd say buy a squad of Havocs or Chosen loaded up with, say, 2 or 3 meltaguns and 2 flamers, to complement Huron's heavy flamer and have them be a great anti-infantry and -tank squad.

I'm under-impressed by Maulerfiends on paper (they seem a but too easy to bog down, with so few attacks), and the Tendrils won't affect one of their main dangers—krak grenades—so I dunno. I'd rather have another Heldrake and some points to spend on Huron's Chosen retinue. Still, I haven't played with 'me, so I can't definitively dismiss them.

I'd rather have a Lightning Claw than a Power Maul on the biker champion. Against as many as many opponents that have a 3+ save as you'll be facing, you'll want an AP3 weapon—and as you always have to challenge, you don't want to be striking last with an unwieldy weapon. That leaves the power weapon, with +1 attack, or the lightning claw, with Shred. I've found the Claw to be sliiiightly more reliable, especially when you have bonus attacks on the charge. I do like the plasma guns there—that's right, take advantage of Relentless!

I'd consider Fearless icons rather than VotLW, but go with the latter if you really are devoted to a fluffy Night Lords army.

It won't be a top tier competitive army, but Chaos isn't that, this codex. The list is by no means bad; You'll still have plenty of fun—Huron, bikes, Heldrake(s), etc.

Just one question, fluff wise. Isn't Sevatar, the "Prince of Crows" character, supposed to die during the Horus Heresy? Who, then, is this new guy?

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At this point I am very skeptical about the maulerfiends myself, and I think I may end up replacing them with something more reliable like some obliterators. And add some meltabombs to my aspiring champions. I think that would be a nasty combination infiltrating my terminators alongside the obliterators. The prince of crows was supposedly killed during the heresy, but in the night lords books, some of the 10th company still believed him to be alive. I also think the fact that they didn't really give you the details of his demise I think its reasonable to say he may be alive.

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Youch. Gotta love Huron! Just remember, when your Oblits are getting in close, that S&P means they can't Overwatch.

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I may take away one of my csm squads for another bike squadron, I love what the new codex and 6th edition have done with them.
Prince Of crows(huron):160
6 terminators w/5 combi-plasma/reaper autocannon/votlw/:258
9 csm w/flamer/rhino/close combat weapons/:167
2x10 csm w/2 meltaguns/rhino/votlw/:410
10 cultists w/heavy stubber/:55
2x6 bikes w/2 plasma gun/lightning claws/votlw/meltabomb/:406
1 heldrake w/baleflamer/:170
3 obliterators:210

Also a question I have concerning the lightning claws, do I purchase them as a pair, seems expensive for 1 model.

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Prince Of crows(huron):160
6 terminators w/6 combi-plasmaa/votlw/chainfist/:250
9 csm w/flamer/rhino/close combat weapons/lightning claw/meltabomb/:187
10 csm w/votlw/2 meltagun/rhino/lightning claw/meltabomb:225
2x10 csm w/2 meltaguns/rhino/lightning claw/meltabomb/:450
2x6 bikes w/2 plasma gun/power maul/votlw/:376
1 heldrake w/baleflamer/:170

My totals may be a little off I apologize going off my memory
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I like the list, I see no really glaring weaknesses, save for not a lot of high powered shooting, but thats what the maulerfiends are for. Speaking of which, I'd say drop the tendrils on them. I think they really only excel at tank hunting, at least that's what I plan on using mine for.



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Prince of crows(huron):160
6 terminators w/3 combi-melta/3 combi-plasma/chainfist/votlw/:250
9 csm w/ccw's/flamer/lightning claw/rhino/votlw/:182
10 csm w/2 meltaguns/lightning claw/rhino/votlw/:220
2x5 csm w/plasma gun/rhino/havoc launcher/votlw/:284
2x5 bikes w/2 plasma guns/lightning claw/meltabombs/votlw/:330
1 heldrake w/baleflamer/:170
2 maulerfiends w/magma cutter/:250

I split my last unit of csm into two units. which are objective grabbers, since they will be away from the fighting, I armed them with havoc launchers in order to still reach my enemy.
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