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Default Double FOC Competetive (Very) 2000pts

Let's exploit the double FOC shall we?

Daemon Prince (140)
-Wings
-Doombolt

Daemon Prince (140)
-Wings
-Doombolt

Daemon Prince (140)
-Wings
-Doombolt


10x CSM (160)
-2xFlamers

10x CSM (160)
-2xFlamers

10x CSM (180)
-2x Plasma

10x CSM (180)
-2x Plasma

10x CSM (180)
-2x Plasma

2x Oblits (150)

2x Oblits (150)

Defiler (150)

Defiler (150)

Vindicator (125)


Total:2005



50 Marines, 3 Princes, 3 Large Blasts and 4 Oblits. Tell me that won't make ya poop a little in fear.

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Edit 2: Arghhh. This list is just so damn efficient. I cant stop looking at it!

Edit 3: Cleaned myself up. Waiting patiently for comments.

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Your 5 points over, Defilers are free VP's to your opponent, and I really hope you don't get into CC.
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I know I'm over. That's why the total says 2005 For a tournament I would drop one of the doombolts.

And close combat is not that scary. 10 marines is nothing to scoff at in close combat even without a special weapon. They can hold their own long enough for a prince or more marines to reinforce. They would have some trouple against all power weapon wielding units for sure. However if there are only a few of those units the entirety of the army should be able to handle them at range. If there is an entire army, they should be rather small and again I should be able to handle them if the army is played smartly.

I agree as well that AV12 is fairly destructible but the Defilers do have 4 hull points, more than most other vehicles. Also there's that whole 'if they're shooting my defilers then they're not shooting my princes' thing. Oh, and did I mention there's three princes!

This army has to support itself to be most effective. The princes support the marines in close combat and the ordinance and marines support the princes at range.

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You really want to exploit the double FOC? personally I would take 5 DPs (3 Deamon Heavies, 2 CSM HQ) some lacky or so deamon HQ, then fill the rest with troops and maybe some oblits. You might not claim many objectives, but who wants to see 5 winged monsters out there?

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You really want to exploit the double FOC? personally I would take 5 DPs (3 Deamon Heavies, 2 CSM HQ) some lacky or so deamon HQ, then fill the rest with troops and maybe some oblits. You might not claim many objectives, but who wants to see 5 winged monsters out there?
You couldn't do that. You can only take a maximum of 1 HQ, 2 Troops, 1 Elite, 1 Fast, and 1 Heavy from an Ally codex.

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Or with two FoC you could;

Daemons based army;

4 Lords of change
6 HS Daemon Prince
2 CSM Princes

Not sure on price, probably tops 1200 just for that, and you need 4 daemon troops and 2 csm troops to just make minimum requirements.



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You couldn't do that. You can only take a maximum of 1 HQ, 2 Troops, 1 Elite, 1 Fast, and 1 Heavy from an Ally codex.
True, forgot about that. Well you can still get 4. 2 CSM DPs, the Deamon Bloodthirster (his name escapes me) and a heavy DP. I'm not saying the list would be competitive or anything, but it would still be a pain to deal with.

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Or with two FoC you could;

Daemons based army;

4 Lords of change
6 HS Daemon Prince
2 CSM Princes

Not sure on price, probably tops 1200 just for that, and you need 4 daemon troops and 2 csm troops to just make minimum requirements.
Yeah I'd say Daemons could exploit the dual FOC the best. 10 FMC is just too many to take down. But I play CSM

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To be honest thats a pretty tame list I wouldn't say it was competitive. With two FOC's id take four lash princes, 12 obliterators in squads of two and a bunch of cult troops either zerkers or plague marines.

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To be honest thats a pretty tame list I wouldn't say it was competitive. With two FOC's id take four lash princes, 12 obliterators in squads of two and a bunch of cult troops either zerkers or plague marines.
Alright. So 12 Oblits comes out to 900 points; 4 Lash Princes comes out to 620; In a 2000 point game that leaves you with 480 points. Assuming you get all Plague Marines and ZERO special weapons you can afford 20 marines. I have to say I think my list is a bit more balanced than yours.

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