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Hq
Daemon price - 175
Mark of nurgle
Warptime

Elites
5 terminators - 185
4 power weapons
1 chain fist
Heavy flamer
3 combi plasma

Troops

7 plague marines - 246
Champ with power fist
2 flamers
Rhino

7 plague marines -256
Champ with power fist
2 melta guns
Rhino

7 plague marines - 266
Champ with power fist
2 plasma guns
Rhino

Heavy support
Obliterator - 75

Predator - 150
Turret lass cannon
Side heavy bolters
Extra armor

Vindicator - 145
Daemonic possession

Well this is my list as it stands for 1.5k and was wondering what people thought of it? Maybe only a few changes to make it stronger? Or do I need a complete overhaul of the list? Thanks!
As much as I love termies and I feel are a great choice might and up slowing me down in making a stronger list in the end but I would like to try and keep them in if I can but I don't have too

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Cut the Predator and the Vindicator, take moar Obliterators. There's room for another three or four there. Replace the Combi-Plasmas for Combi-Meltas. Knock the Power Fists from the Champions and replace them with either another Plague Marine or to buy Havoc Launchers on the Rhinos. I'd lose Warptime to shave points as it's no longer 25pts worth of good, and I'd put the Icon of Nurgle on the Terminators.

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Hq
Daemon price - 175
Mark of nurgle
Warptime
Good, warptime still has its uses
Elites
5 terminators - 185
4 power weapons
1 chain fist
Heavy flamer
3 combi plasma
Replace with melta. Possibly take x4 melta. Add IoN for extra survivabilty
Troops

7 plague marines - 246
Champ with power fist
2 flamers
Rhino
Give them an Icon, give rhino extra bolter, otherwise great choice
7 plague marines -256
Champ with power fist
2 melta guns
Rhino
Give them icon, give rhino extra bolter, otherwise great choice
7 plague marines - 266
Champ with power fist
2 plasma guns
Rhino
Replace plasma with melta and give them icon, give rhino extra bolter, otherwise great choice
Heavy support
Obliterator - 75
drop this guy and use points elsewhere
Predator - 150
Turret lass cannon
Side heavy bolters
Extra armor
Replace with x2 Oblits
Vindicator - 145
Daemonic possession
Replace with x2 Oblits

These are just my suggestions. I think that you might be able to split the termies into a unit of 2 if you can find the points to buy an additional one

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Hello imperial dragon.

First off I would say I like ur army. It looks like a fun list to play with. I would also say it's quite a friendly list. Tis is the right place to come if you intend to make it more competitive. I don't think there is any point in posting army list online unless you want to make it as competitive as possible or your a noob and I don't think you r a noob with 1390 posts.

I prosume CSM is not you main army?

Because of the age of the current codex there are only a couple builds now that are competitive. These mainly envolve spamming sertian units. Oblits are one of the most common. U could go down the root of 3 vindis but then u lack long range fire support so I would recommend taking the terms, vindi and pred out the list and taking 3x3 oblits and putting havoc lornchers all round on ur rhinos.

I made my oblits from converted termies. Save my self some change but that wasn't the really point. I'm not keen on the current models. One thing to remember is the new codex is due to drop soon tho.

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Thanks for all the tips!

Here is a list with the termies still in
Hq
Daemon price - 175
Mark of nurgle
Warptime

Elites
5 terminators - 230
4 power weapons
1 chain fist
Heavy flamer
4 combi melta
Icon of nurgle

Troops

7 plague marines - 246
Champ with power fist
2 flamers
Rhino

7 plague marines -256
Champ with power fist
2 melta guns
Rhino

7 plague marines - 256
Champ with power fist
2 melta guns
Rhino

Heavy support
2 Obliterators - 150

2 Obliterators - 150

I feel this works out pretty well now, the dp and termies can go smash face in while the oblits go tank hunting and the pm do what they do best I'll post another list at lunch time since I'm at work ATM, also of costs are wrong on the termies let me know it's done by memory haha

I can see from this list that I can drop the termies and add a few more dudes to the pm unit which I will think of doing.

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The trouble with your termys is they are slow moving and only have a 5* save. This means they will be picked off easily. They will either be shoot by lass and plass or assaulted by ur opponents Stella assault unit. Prob mean higher I and power weapons. U could try DS them but I don't like that. To random. Sorry
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The trouble with your termys is they are slow moving and only have a 5* save. This means they will be picked off easily. They will either be shoot by lass and plass or assaulted by ur opponents Stella assault unit. Prob mean higher I and power weapons. U could try DS them but I don't like that. To random. Sorry
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Hq
Daemon price - 175
Mark of nurgle
Warptime
Should do well and warptime is still valuable

Elites
5 terminators - 230
4 power weapons
1 chain fist
Heavy flamer
4 combi melta
Icon of nurgle
Nice and tough, very durable and will kill tanks with ease. Also costs 240 points

Troops
7 plague marines - 246
Champ with power fist
2 flamers
Rhino
Excellent. Also maybe change flamers for more melta OR give the rhino/champion a combi flamer, also they need an icon for termie deepstrike

7 plague marines -256
Champ with power fist
2 melta guns
Rhino
Excellent, but needs icon for termie deepstrike

7 plague marines - 256
Champ with power fist
2 melta guns
Rhino
Excellent, but needs icon for termie deepstrike

Heavy support
2 Obliterators - 150
2 Obliterators - 150
Excellent

I can see from this list that I can drop the termies and add a few more dudes to the pm unit which I will think of doing.No keep the termies for anti tank capability and help with some reserve man power where needed


Your list comes in at 1473 total. With the suggested above tweaks it now comes in at 1498. This is a great list and I believe it will work well in experienced hands.

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Thanks for helpping me out with the costs, yeah that seems pretty solid now, I'll have to test it out pretty soon and see how it goes! Thanks again for all the help and stuff.
I've never foot slogged termies in a game only ever DS and I've always been pretty safe with them but I do see your point though, but with the added icons in the list it shouldn't be a problem DS my units where they need to be.

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On a slightly unrelated note, can we please stop adding an extra 'l' to Las and Plas? It's reducing the awesomeness of Lascannons when you call them Lass Cannons.

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